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anyone have any thoughts on these birds know anyone done flew well or not so well just general thoughts really

i wouldn't train in east winds this time of year no way its madness ant new comers reading this stay well away from training for a while until wind changes belive me best bit of advice u will get here

chriss first good laugh i had all day ty

whats the world coming too with websites like this nappies on pigeons all i can say is i give up

very good post there think it should be a rule that every new comer to our sport read this but then again im not a mean person but i always try to find out as much as i can before i buy doesnt always work i have to say like i was out of the birds for a few year and i couldn't believe that some lofts were using the same winners to advertise there birds 8 years or so previous saw these adds in the pigeon mags just a quick hint a fancier doesnt have to be winning every week to have top birds its all about location with a lot of theses multiple winners

thanks mike

ty merlin u have a website for this just to have a look

anyone help or know someone that knows about grains and all that

hi there just need some sdvice have allways raced birds 350 mile or there abouts but now i raceing 100 to 180 mile with the wind in the birds back compleattly different raceing need help with types of grain heard a few different opinions on this they seem to differ or is there anyone i can pm on this subject can advice apperaced

i belive its a bit like the hunting bill in the uk there are too many what i call do gooders around who havent a clue what goes on and belive thers no room for a culling of species

fifer i think it wil be hard to turn around the general public opion on this its up too us really

pm me mikkey can chat there

mikkey there must be other ways to get rid of this problem surelly

merlin i agree with what u are doing am along the same lines myself but think that most fanicers wont go along with this just my opion and im not saying to ask anyone one else to help us ot is up to ourselves to fix our problem just saying everyone has to do there bit in geting rid of this problem i think its a great idea and i belive the way that u are treating your pigeons is the way to a long term sucess just cant see the majorigy following this progam of not treating for cancer so i think other ways have to be looked at that most fanicers will give a go

my belief is we should be trying to encourge youngers yes but its the older pll that where we can really add extra fanicers when a young lad hits 16 18 years old all that on his mind is women and a few drinks come on lads we all rember so its the ppl that retireing and maybe are looking for something too fill there days i hear that they have conventions now for pll retireing maybe the could be some sort of presention put togeather to show our great sport off just a tought

mikkey hope im wrong but the hen could be gone to nest and u wont see her for a few weeks and then she will be back hungier then ever as the cock mostly catches blackbirds thrushes and all that she wiil have to feed the young as well as herself

merlin its a good idea if it works but i cant see fanicers stop treating there birds really cant eagle owl a good idea too its like this every fanicer knows what has to be done we just have to get up off our backsides to do it had a fanicer telling to me he was getting attacked for the last 3 months couldent belive that he didint sort the problem . all i know is that i wont have one attacking mine around the loft simple as

totally agree wiyh u gareth it wont take a whole lot of effort if everyone does a little bit

yeah have done it for years found no ill effects when feeding youngters

i think its up to the pigeon fanicer to sort this problem out if every pigeon fanicer done a small bit about the prob and i dont think we can depend on the goverments to sort this one out

i send u a pm gangter

garlic oil is handy but i think there's noting better then the real thing in my opinion just crush up a couple cloves best i think would like to know what other ppl ideas are

id sat j bamling is right just check to make sure there are no joint sweelings

just to say lads these are good birds i would buy only for a real lack of space and i dont know the seller in any way there results in the Europa one loft race was fantastic and also in the nipa some fanciers putting up some good results hope the seller don't mind me writing this

heard it good in the bath water this true