just ask me

yes but merlin we are no longer in nature darkness ststem widdow hood i would agree that the misuse of drugs caused a lot of this but are our birds really natural any more we have winter breeding too the stress of racing now im not saying u put baytill into the water incase they have something or any other drug for that matter but there are times when drugs like this have to be used like id imagine there was no area in ireland england scotland wales that did not get by young bird sickness this year even its rampant and with para a lot of the time the pigeon that is the carrier could be in your loft for years and u will never no its even there

yes but the problem is the carrier of para might never get sick and shows signs of the disese so u could cull all around u and the carrier stiil be in your loft just a point

the problem is all these new dieses years ago yes u could get away without useing them but there is cases where they have to be used but what gets me is i hear pll saying i havent used antibitiocs but when u enter there loft u can see straight away that there birds have more than cancer cooci big green dropings just keep an open mind and 1 quick hint lads baytrill is not a cure for all it is a top class drug that can be used when certain dieses come along

ad someting of the same problem but when i video taped about 500 crows flying right over her house every eveing that solved that

good luck too u let us know if u brred a good one off it

id imagine so but u never know just i like to find out what birds can do pure too as well as a cross

could u get ure hands on another one of bob and pair him with the two hens

and its sounds like young bird sickness your club mates wil be doing some curseing next week i started up a thread before where i said everyone should have there own hamper if possible and i was shot down by a couple of ppl but it seems to make sence now

there good birds them who flying them here

fair play to u gangter and this site is brillant have tried to help out one or two when i can too just its something i can see happening down the road a bit its starting to happen allready a little nottin major

well a we cant help that really there will allways be 1 or two about but all im saying is u can come on hear have a laugh have a good read find out about who is winning just ive seen 1 or 2 members useing it there on persnall advertiseing agency

well mate u going to have to do something there as there not going to go any where if food is around

afraid to say its a part of keeping pigeons but keep the chin up cause they can give so much joy as well

ure in trouble if there around there are even more deadlly then a falcon

well done gladdo keep it up get the red one next week go on lol

well u could have missed them as i have seen on your profile u are not here that long

never asked how long u are in pigeons never said u were not a member of this site never said u have to be in crowd as im not in that crouwd either al i said was u mightent of seeing some of the posts here as u not here that long and this is a genuine thread that i started so this site doesent turn into advertiseing agency like1 or 2 seem to be doing

ure are new too thread havent seen many of the posts here how can u comment

i dont mind birds hitting high prices its just it could turn into a advertiseing site as ive seen from from 1 or 2 members

but it is members here allready

never said anything about costs no where i dont know what the answer is all im saying its starting to creep in fair play chris for replying to the post if another few comes in maybe we can bang our heads to geather and come up with something as i can see this becomeing a bigger problem in the future

yes but there are a good lot of new comers come on here too and to the them when they see fancy ads fancy pictures it gets them and this site is perfect for the young ppl coming on to the site and newcomers to the sport

chiss u are picking me up wrong what i am saying if u look back through the posts some pll just use this place to benifit them selves and use this place like a advertiseing agency its notting to do with costs not what this thread about its just this is a place to have a chat and sell a odd pigeon its not to bad now but u look at the weekly mags and the amount of ads in them we could end up with the same here

yes but there pll on here selling a few birds and contribute geatlly to the site no problem with this but shouldent this site be about helping one another and not for one or two who are pracailly studs now on here just constally selling birds

yes but studs pay big fees to advertise in the weekly mags and someone can use this for free to advertise we all have seen the posts