just ask me

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thanks again oldyellow go way and mind your own :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

hi lads said id ask here might be easier we are starting to use the unkion ets and the person that had the manual to work club system has misplaced the manual is there much work involved in setting up a race i have entered birds on the system just on race marking and on getting results on the race is all i need

true but i do like to be strees free stress does noting for my model looks ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

hard to know sometimes lighting can clear the sky i hope

happy birthday to all and injoy the day dont do what i did i got drunk and cant rember a thing

cant imagine how the full strength bleach could have a positive effect on the stomach of a bird i can see why people would want to use Milton which is a very mild bleach but the full strength stuff im not sure dont people unblock drains with the stuff on garlic and cider vinegar there are certain studies that show that these have certain benefits to pigeons i wonder can the bleach users show a study where this would have positive effects on a bird

we have had a good few stories like this roundo as im sure u have seen them also we have had a good few stories with well over 90% returns some only missing one or two even hope u are another one that has a bit of luck

or else very long streets ;D ;D ;D

google earth states it can be out by 30 or 60 meters not sure which one

i breed an average from 35 to 45 i lost 5 maybe 6 last year they all had at least 14 races most flew youngbird program of 16 17 races

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yes

ill have a look but to be honest mate most wicker baskets fall apart and there costlly maybe i bought the wrong type but for me they dont take much hardship

well done top flying

thanks but i think i may have opened up more questions than answers :-/

it would be great if we could get on the same line of thinking but i think they would have to be ground given on both sides and a lot of dialogue between both sides from what ive been they have to realise that there is an over population full stop we have to realise that 99% of these guys are bird lovers like ourselves and love there birds too and don't go out with there birds to take down our racing pigeons i do belive if a reasonable solution was given too the pigeon men in the main that would be accepted maybe one of them have seen something with there experience that will work as a detrient remember they live love breathe bops like we do our birds what cant continue to happen where discussions have went on before where they start off fine then get personal this gets us no where also they have to realise flashing lights around loft discs plastic owls and other deterrents only work for a limited time the only one im unsure on how successful they are is the eyes that are painted onto the wings anyway what we should be looking for is where they can see our side of the problem where we cant let birds out for a fly without being hit the one being killed is not the major problem its the damage the hit causes other birds flying into trees walls windows and so on also the psychological damage it causes the rest of the flock most of the bop men will say that nature and the risks u take we say we want them moved but pigeon racing is flown all over the country so will cause problems where ever they are moved do we agree on having say so many pairs on within a 50 mile square zone and when we can prove its that pair that killing a bird every second day a bop man comes in and removes them but what happens then we would have a situation where the the nest is refilled with in a week and start killing again many will say well he just let them off few mile up the road where it would be inmost cases another pair filling the nest do we get fanicers and bop men and women of course working together as a team to sort out what happens with the problem pair i mean paid properly to remove falcons there still is a lot of questions that needs answering in a big way

well my own are on darkness but touch wood everything so far is going good as regards training and flying around the loft but do know of a few that are having problems with youngers flying and are on darkness it may be down too them being more sexually mature early in there lifes as when the birds go through the moult there hormone level drops but with darkness u dont get this and it can happen when on darkness all they want to do is pair up and not interested in flying like a normal youngster

well i do like too see mine roaming just a question how many of u are on darkness

RIP Willie

also wear the same clothes everyday a loft jacket i find is great and if u really wanted to u could put a dummy in loft with loft jacket on put grains in pockets and all give 2 weeks they will be all over u

as far as i know there was a backlog with applications and forgotten passwords sorry about the delay please be patient

he wouldent like too see u geting any bad habits either ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

at the end of the day we mods cant see everything only last week i missed a post that was way out of order that why pms from members is so helpful we really cant see everything also we can have 3 4 threads to that may need watching so if something is not moved into the proper section or u may feel a post or thread may need or attention please pm or u have any questions also pm u might not always get the answer u want or sometimes we may need to do a little research but we will get back too u with your concern really what it boils down too that the forum is doing so well with a large amount of active users and a large amount of posts and threads

just a little tip lads don't train early in the morning when just coming off the darkness there clock in head is still messed up with the time of the day in all