Kyleakin Lofts Posted February 28, 2018 Report Posted February 28, 2018 The Flanders Cup A type of competition common in Belgium but unheard of and unthinkable over hereis the Flanders Cup. This cup targets the Barcelona International and is about theart of forecasting your team in arrival order to confirm your ability to know yourpigeons. Not only forecasting but also clocking the pigeons in the first 25 percent ofthe entry or in the full result. (The full result is the first 25 percent clocked) is alsomeasured. This confirms the overall quality of the family. As most people know when you enter a race in Belgium or The Netherlands youhave to write down your entries in the order you expect them to arrive at your loft.The first pigeon at the top is number one and so on down the list until the 10thpigeon you enter is the tenth pigeon on your list. Nobody gets it absolutely right butthe closer you are and the more pigeons you time the better your chances ofwinning the Flanders Cup. This year 5034 fanciers entered the InternationalBarcelona, but only three fanciers timed in all of their first selected 10 pigeons. Thatis 3 out of 5034 fanciers achieved the forecasting target maximum of 10 out of 10.It's a pretty tall order. The three fanciers who achieved this near impossible forecasting feat were:First: Christ Musters a fancier from Hoogerheide in the Netherlands.Second: Toon Janssen of Helenaveen also in the NetherlandsThird: Hagens Brothers of Achthuizen again in the Netherlands - in fact the first fivein the list were all from the Netherlands. As an example Christ Musters sent 10 pigeons, all ten were timed in the first 25%.They are shown below in the order in which they finished with their fullInternational position, from 25,716 entrants, against which is their nomination orderand velocity:-International Position Nomination Velocity893 6 986.771335 1 967.161813 2 951.152297 3 934.982597 9 925.712734 4 921.382826 10 917.653430 7 898.344461 8 863.964570 5 860.40 while Toon Janssen, who also sent and timed ten pigeons, finished as follows:- International Position Nomination Velocity146 1 1061.20414 5 1018.69706 3 996.24796 9 990.661650 7 956.562141 10 940.062272 4 935.882477 5 928.993945 8 881.584610 2 858.88 A fancier who is known to the UK is our very own Patrick Brothers. They were 129thin the list timing in five of their first ten nominated pigeons. Those British fancierswho are inclined to raise their eyebrows at such a position and the number timedshould realise that they were 129th out of 5034 fanciers taking part and eventhough not all of these sent ten pigeons to the race I would say at least half ofthem did. So its not so bad after all to time five our of the ten nominated pigeons.If a similar scheme were adopted in for instance the National Flying club they wouldprobably not have even one fancier to time in ten out of ten pigeons in a race ofsimilar distance. The beauty of the Barcelona International is that it affords a bigsample so that competitions such as the "Flanders Cup" can take place. The first German loft was Heinz Seegmuller in 6th place timing in 9 of his ten pigeons,missing out with his 3rd pigeon.The first Belgian loft was Ferdy Schuermans who also timed 9 out of 10 missing out with his 9th pigeon.The first French loft was Eric Vitel of Grungies in Northern France. He timed eight of his selected 10 pigeonsmissing out with his 9th and 10th selections. Other notable fanciers were Nouwen Paesen 9th timing 9 out of 10, Gerard VanTuyl 10th, Chris Van der Velden 43rd, Willy Clerebaut 27th, Frenken Brothers 39th,Mevr Deweerdt and son 45th, Robert Ben of Calais 26th timing 7 from 10, Menneand dtr the winners of the race in 46th, Wijnands and son from Maastricht in 69th,Lothar Lessmeister the German fancier in 63rd and Herman Brinkman the long flyingfancier from Tuk in the Netherlands was 59th timing 6 out of 10. The wind was notgood for French fanciers but Roger Senicourt of Gravelinnes on the French channelcoast was 64th he timed 5 out of his 10 pigeons. John Clements
paddymac Posted February 28, 2018 Report Posted February 28, 2018 I wouldn't care what position my bird arrived home from the likes of Barcelona as long as it returned.
THE FIFER Posted February 28, 2018 Report Posted February 28, 2018 very good and interesting reading m8, well done
Kyleakin Lofts Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Posted February 28, 2018 I wouldn't care what position my bird arrived home from the likes of Barcelona as long as it returned. Likewise, however I think the principle could be applied to many situations.
paddymac Posted February 28, 2018 Report Posted February 28, 2018 Couldn't see it happening here but it would be a lot easier with those using ETS systems. Clerebut and Brinkman are no longer racing pigeons.
fieldwalker Posted March 4, 2018 Report Posted March 4, 2018 Interesting...il be sending 10 or more to this years longest race Bourges UNC.I alway used to write down in my own loft book FP and LR for every race...always got some surpises..
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