Feeding Once A Day

[neila]

If during the old bird season you were only in a position to feed once per day and flew widowhood cocks and hens what corn would you feed and how much would you feed each morning and either train or loft fly the birds just in the morning

For a team of birds for up up 350 miles and a team of longer distance birds

Would it be a mix or an amount of mix and a straight in the hopper

Thanks for any replies and views

[Wiley]

Neil, if i had to race this way, i would have barley infront of both teams at all times, and use a good widowhood mix, for the once a day that you could actually feed em. Barry McNicholas discusses a similar method in Loft Stock and Barrel

[neila]

Hi Wiley

 

Would give them a set amount in the pots or allow them all they want to eat for half hour or so

[neila]

I should have added in the previous seasons I have fed 20 grass of Gerry to late in the week and left a beans in front of them and increased the carbs and fats if needed the last few days depending on distance but my only interest was over 200 miles to on the day races so maybe I could change the beans to barley and use more of a balanced sport mix as you mention Wiley

[Wiley]

If it was sprinting neil, barley infront at all times, and various different of measures in the week building upto a thursday and friday as much of the gerry as they require.

[neila]

Cheers Wiley

If you wanted to last the season would you at some point move to beans or peas from barley or use beans say every Sunday and Monday then continue with barley as you posted

Thanks for your posts mate it's good to get another angle with my problem

[Wiley]

Cheers Wiley

If you wanted to last the season would you at some point move to beans or peas from barley or use beans say every Sunday and Monday then continue with barley as you posted

Thanks for your posts mate it's good to get another angle with my problem

 

Id never use beans, maple peas yes. This you could supplement with ur measure of gerry on a Sunday with higher percentage maples say 70 to 30 Gerry. Then Monday swing it round 70 gerry 30 maples, then no added protein at all.

What i must say is neil i dont race this way it is just the way id do it. As the distance increased barley would still be infront at all times but the measure for the first 7 days from a 14 day build up would contain more protein, and the last 7 days being fats and carbs.

[Wiley]

Mcnicholas would have barley infront of em with nothing else added from sat to tuesday, wednesday was only day when a good mix was introduced and that was 1/2 n 1/2. Thursday barley removed and only good mix infront of the birds. Friday good mix infront of the birds and a teaspoon of equal parts canary and hemp.

[neila]

Yes that makes perfect sense to me Wiley ,I understand it's not your way to race and are helping with my work problem which I wish to improve and I agree the protein could be left longer maybe to Friday or even Sunday of week one in a two week build

Would yo think 20 grams early in the week going to 35 grams about right in a one week build

[Wiley]

20 grams up until tuesday would be fine, Tuesday 30grams, Wednesday 35grams, Thursday and friday all they require for 30 mins. They will fill themself up early in the week if they are hungry with the barley infront of them for sprinting.

 

Distance takes a little more thought and im just shooting from the hip on how i would do things. But it all depends when u basket if u basket on a thursday for distance id like protein completely out by the week before basketing day.

[neila]

Cheers Wiley

You have been great help

[neila]

Cheers Wiley

You have been great help

[alex young]

A good topic lads.

[neila]

One little concern I have with this plan is when I tried a similar method (although using beans )although the hens flew well in the morning I found the cocks didn't so I wonder if the barley would be better in each cocks box. My thinking being that maybe they didn't leave the box often enough during the day to top up and by the time they were let out they never had the energy to fly like the hens that were on v Perch's so may have being using the hopper more during the day

[Wiley]

One little concern I have with this plan is when I tried a similar method (although using beans )although the hens flew well in the morning I found the cocks didn't so I wonder if the barley would be better in each cocks box. My thinking being that maybe they didn't leave the box often enough during the day to top up and by the time they were let out they never had the energy to fly like the hens that were on v Perch's so may have being using the hopper more during the day

 

 

If i was doing it neil, the barley would be in the box yes, but their main feed would be in the hopper. Birds that are fed in boxes are more fussier with the grains they are eating, and personally i like the birds to eat all the grains i put down to em, and being fed in the hopper i find they are more competitive for their feed.

[neila]

Cheers Wiley