General Licence Restrictions

[Walter swanston]

It is reported on the BBC news today that Scottish Natural Heritage has been successful in removing a general licence granted to two estates one I the Borders and one in Stirlingshire to control the depredations of raptors..If this can be done with apparent impunity it is apparent that pigeon fanciers have no chance in acquiring such licenses.The situation in Scotland is that the control or otherwise is reserved to the Scottish, I know this because I have addressed a committee of of the Parliament on this matter.The situation in England appears to be that fanciers are being encouraged to approach their local MPs in the Westminster Parliament hoping for a change in the laws as they apply to England so that licenses to control birds of prey can be granted to individual fanciers.I am sorry to say this but it is fantasy and going nowhere.p

[gulkie]

My friend there was never going to be any other outcome ,there was a ruling that

A licence could be Applied for to catch and relocate BOPS .enquire and

See how many was granted ?,I can garentee you there was none and never will be

Any .sorry to sound like a diffeatist ,but trying to get any way to reduce BOPS is

Flogging a dead horse .the RSPB have it well sewn up .

[greenbar]

My friend there was never going to be any other outcome ,there was a ruling that

A licence could be Applied for to catch and relocate BOPS .enquire and

See how many was granted ?,I can garentee you there was none and never will be

Any .sorry to sound like a diffeatist ,but trying to get any way to reduce BOPS is

Flogging a dead horse .the RSPB have it well sewn up .

nothing new there,

[Guest johnhunter]

bump

[Walter swanston]

The point I was somewhat laboriously trying to make is that all the effort presently being made by the RPRA in encouraging their members to contact their individual MPs, although laudable is going nowhere..I regret being so negative about this matter but unless there is a major shift in public opinion I fear the legal route for the control of raptors is closed to pigeon fanciers.

[gulkie]

The point I was somewhat laboriously trying to make is that all the effort presently being made by the RPRA in encouraging their members to contact their individual MPs, although laudable is going nowhere..I regret being so negative about this matter but unless there is a major shift in public opinion I fear the legal route for the control of raptors is closed to pigeon fanciers.

You hit it on the head mate (legal)???

[Tony C]

http://www.countryside-alliance.org/victory-for-gamekeeper-in-high-court-fight-to-manage-birds-of-prey/

 

http://www.nationalgamekeepers.org.uk/news/fairness-in-wild-bird-licensing-as-keeper-wins-landmark-legal-battle

[Dooheed 5]

The point I was somewhat laboriously trying to make is that all the effort presently being made by the RPRA in encouraging their members to contact their individual MPs, although laudable is going nowhere..I regret being so negative about this matter but unless there is a major shift in public opinion I fear the legal route for the control of raptors is closed to pigeon fanciers.

Nae trying ti be Cheeky but Anybody wi half a Brain would of already knew that !! I went round my Workplace a while back tryin to get signatures for the RPRA Change in the law Petition !! I explained calmly the impact these Raptors (Peregrine,Sparrowhawk) were having on our sport but unfortunately I was left with a clear picture on how most viewed Pigeons or flying rats,Disease ridden Vermon as the also kindly put it over The Beautiful Majestic Birds of Prey !!

[sandy25]

Just perhaps it might be an idea if all fanciers got together and signed a petition that forbid any and all from restocking birds of prey to the country side we only need 100,000 signatures to have the matter raised in parliament just maybe between us all and all our families and friends we might make up the required amount , dont know if it can be an online petition , but there has to be a way to stop the RSPCA from introducing raptors ..sooner the public starts to find ripped up birds in their gardens , walks, picnic spots the better..

Another thought is that we (all of us that is) should keep all our birds in for 3 or 4 weeks when the bop are feeding young and force the bop to hunt city pigeons we just might manage to shake public opinion especially when bop has its breakfast dripping blood and gore into their morning cuppa

Come on lads and lasses there is always something we can do

Lets get together use our brains and sort this out......