National or Not?

[doo]

Surely the question of national or not, boils down to this, no if's, but's or maybe's

 

If you are saying Scotland is a nation you must accept Wales, Ireland or England are also nations, as in SNRPC then surely if you compete against another nation as in Wales, Ireland or England then it has to be considered an International, we can't have it both ways.

 

If it is a Scottish national then it should be only open to Scots if we are a seperate nation.

 

 

 

 

Why is there no Welsh NRPC, Irish NRPC, English NRPC or even a UKNRPC to compliment the SNRPC

 

But Duncan how many clubs can you have claiming national status in one country ?

 

 

[rembrant2coo]

well stevie looking at my yearbook from the s.n.r.p.c. i don,t see any marking stations down for beith or kilmarnock there is one for les/gow but not for the other two so i would go back to the chap you got your information from and tell him to shoveit

[doo]

Harry, definately a marathon race 700 odd miles. I think you'll need a tail wind

 

Harry, definately a marathon race 700 odd miles. I think you'll need a tail wind or it could be best part of a 3 day plodder race. I preffer 1 day races but I've got a job to go to most days, however whatever takes yer fancy and good luck to you all...[/

i would have thought you could have been one of the ones up to the challenge mate,but there you go

 

 

 

But will the NFC lib in a tail wind just to help the Scots lads & lassies ?

 

or will they look after the main stay of their body ?

[Guest]

 

 

I was talking to an SNRPC member from my Area & he was saying that the SNFC & the SNRPC were falling over themselves to get members from Ayrshire ...every thing is getting made easier ...with marking stations in Beith & near Kilmarnock.....expletive remove I had to go to Airdrie when I was lats in the "Nats" ....now you can join on the night in your own club ....expletive remove the next thing you know I'll be getting offered a 50 mile start ;-)

 

Join well see if you can achieve your dreams,if your good enought,no matter what national,both are difficult ,so letts see if you can cut it with the best 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Guest]

 

 

 

But will the NFC lib in a tail wind just to help the Scots lads & lassies ?

 

or will they look after the main stay of their body ?

 

Will you be going like? 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[doo]

 

Join well see if you can achieve your dreams,if your good enought,no matter what national,both are difficult ,so letts see if you can cut it with the best 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

So if I were to join I'd be flying against all the best Fanciers in Scotland ?

 

 

[rembrant2coo]

 

 

 

But will the NFC lib in a tail wind just to help the Scots lads & lassies ?

 

or will they look after the main stay of their body ?

 

surely as i have just stated the welfare of the birds will come 1st and foremost whether you have east, west, north or south winds rain or shine they will look after the birds as there own

[Guest]

 

So if I were to join I'd be flying against all the best Fanciers in Scotland ?

 

 

are you flying against the best in the UNITED KINDOM in your club ? 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[DOVEScot]

 

But Duncan how many clubs can you have claiming national status in one country ?

 

 

One if the above is applied, no different from the SHU, WHU, IHU, or the EHU if there is any, the trouble is we are not considered as a sport and have no specific governing bodies recognised by the sports council, pigeon racing is an entity all of it's own. I can start up the dovescot world homing royal pigeon racing federation tommorow and if I get enough members to join and fly against who could do anything about, no one :-/

[doo]

well stevie looking at my yearbook from the s.n.r.p.c. i don,t see any marking stations down for beith or kilmarnock there is one for les/gow but not for the other two so i would go back to the chap you got your information from and tell him to shoveit  

 

I must be mistaken .....so sorry ....I take it from the Lesmahagow marking station being the closest to me that I wad mistaken & that the SNRPC do not want members from Ayrshire as it is a bit of a trek .....sorry I have misunderstood .....I thought a "National" would have had marking stations in all areas of the "National" ....so sorry if I have upset anyone or mislead any  

[rembrant2coo]

you know something , ithought this topic was kinda straight forward but its getting more and more hilarious every moment the longer it goes on ,                stevie join the one club of the future my friend the s.n.r.p.c.

[Guest chrisss]

you know the idea of an united kingdom racing pigeon club is a good idea,can you picture the clout it would have with the membership numbers,shame it will never happen,to many people happy to be a big fish in a small pond

[DOVEScot]

you know the idea of an united kingdom racing pigeon club is a good idea,can you picture the clout it would have with the membership numbers,shame it will never happen,to many people happy to be a big fish in a small pond

 

That is the way of the future UK NRP Federation  

[DOVEScot]

you know something , ithought this topic was kinda straight forward but its getting more and more hilarious every moment the longer it goes on ,                stevie join the one club of the future my friend the s.n.r.p.c.

 

It's called debate, no way are the English, Irish or Welsh going to become members of a Scottish national club :-/

[Guest]

What we need is ,more members from your section,willing to take part in the ultimate compertision if you win your section being so diffilcult,what a achievement.and plublicity will follow 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[andy]

 

Harry, definately a marathon race 700 odd miles. I think you'll need a tail wind or it could be best part of a 3 day plodder race. I preffer 1 day races but I've got a job to go to most days, however whatever takes yer fancy and good luck to you all...[/

i would have thought you could have been one of the ones up to the challenge mate,but there you go

 

Vince when you've got fast one day pigeons, sending them 700 miles is only going to slow them down, if you get them home. Its definately a different breed for 700 miles, as it is from 300 to 500. Also, I think most definately a hen race. Not my cup of tea but good luck.

 

[Guest chrisss]

 

It's called debate, no way are the English, Irish or Welsh going to become members of a Scottish national club :-/

 

i will be racing birds for the first time this season[yb]i am flying the north road because of defra[for me the south coast is only 150 miles south],if defra can be sent back to the planet they errupted from, and i could get some distance in, i could not care if the "national" club i am in is english/scots/irish/welsh or klingon,would some guy in brighton like to fly against a guy from fife?

[rembrant2coo]

 

It's called debate, no way are the English, Irish or Welsh going to become members of a Scottish national club :-/

 

I THINK YOU HAVE GOT A LITTLE MIXED UP HERE DOVEY MY LITTLE FRIEND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE OTHER NATIONS JOINING DID THEY OR DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE , ONE THING THE BIRDS FROM SCOTLAND ARE BEING TRANSPORTED BY THE N.F.C. TO SAINTES THE LIBERATION WILL BE THE SAME TIME, WE WILL IN SCOTLAND BE FLYING TO A SECTION WHICH HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO US

CALLED SECT M WE CAN THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE , IF SOMEONE TIMES A PIGEON

IN SECT M  THE BONUS WE ARE LOOKING FOR ,CAN IT MAKE IT HIGH UP IN THE N.F.C. RESULT  AND CAN THE REST OF THE PIGEONS MAKE IT HOME THATS ALL WE ASK

 

AND WHAT A BONUS FOR EVERY FANCIER THAT TOOK PART AND MAYBE WE CAN TRY AGAIN THE FOLLOWING YEAR , AND I CAN,T SEE ANYTHING TO STOP US EXCEPT RED TAPE ,

[DOVEScot]

 

would some guy in brighton like to fly against a guy from fife?

 

That was mentioned earlier totally impracticle, we are just a small island 6 or 7 hundred miles long and a lot less wide not the best layout, four seasons in one day, winds so unpredictable to plan races, just have to make the best of it

 

[DOVEScot]

 

I THINK YOU HAVE GOT A LITTLE MIXED UP HERE DOVEY MY LITTLE FRIEND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE OTHER NATIONS JOINING DID THEY OR DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE , ONE THING THE BIRDS FROM SCOTLAND ARE BEING TRANSPORTED BY THE N.F.C. TO SAINTES THE LIBERATION WILL BE THE SAME TIME, WE WILL IN SCOTLAND BE FLYING TO A SECTION WHICH HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO US

CALLED SECT M WE CAN THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE , IF SOMEONE TIMES A PIGEON

IN SECT M  THE BONUS WE ARE LOOKING FOR ,CAN IT MAKE IT HIGH UP IN THE N.F.C. RESULT  AND CAN THE REST OF THE PIGEONS MAKE IT HOME THATS ALL WE ASK

 

AND WHAT A BONUS FOR EVERY FANCIER THAT TOOK PART AND MAYBE WE CAN TRY AGAIN THE FOLLOWING YEAR , AND I CAN,T SEE ANYTHING TO STOP US EXCEPT RED TAPE ,

 

I like when you shout at me auld ain, this post has been all over the place, yourself included talking about things that have no relevance to the origonal question, Not complaing because that's what I thing the forum should all be about but I am damned if you are going to tell me I am mixed up, you mix it along with the best of us.

I would love to see a united Scotland in all walks of life, also a united Kingdom but there is no way I have seen you trying to achieve this, you just bang your own drum, very loud most of the time

[johno]

the marking facility at muirhead is for members of the nfc regardless of whteher or not they are members of the snrpc. the snrpc have i believe funds for performance and prizes in hand that have been ring fenced for snrpc members from this racepont. the snrpc are convoying with the nfc.

[THE FIFER]

 

I like when you shout at me auld ain, this post has been all over the place, yourself included talking about things that have no relevance to the origonal question, Not complaing because that's what I thing the forum should all be about but I am damned if you are going to tell me I am mixed up, you mix it along with the best of us.

I would love to see a united Scotland in all walks of life, also a united Kingdom but there is no way I have seen you trying to achieve this, you just bang your own drum, very loud most of the time

 

regarding the Scottish and UK bit agree 100%

 

 

why have a north of the border organisation if its got to be governed by south of the border, can you call it SCOTTISH ??

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

regarding the Scottish and UK bit agree 100%

 

 

why have a north of the border organisation if its got to be governed by south of the border, can you call it SCOTTISH ??

 

 

No what I was suggesting was a federation of all nationals if you had Sco, Eng, Ire and Wls running their own nationals, the federation could be a commitee of two from each nation

John o Groats to Landsend is 822 miles by road, the widest part of the mainland is less than 400 miles so you are very restricted to the distance you can race within the uk

[ch pied]

 

No what I was suggesting was a federation of all nationals if you had Sco, Eng, Ire and Wls running their own nationals, the federation could be a commitee of two from each nation

John o Groats to Landsend is 822 miles by road, the widest part of the mainland is less than 400 miles so you are very restricted to the distance you can race within the uk

yes everything rolled up in one body , which is in place at the moment , the CONFEDERATION , I understand were you are coming from ,

 

 

[rembrant2coo]

 

I like when you shout at me auld ain, this post has been all over the place, yourself included talking about things that have no relevance to the origonal question, Not complaing because that's what I thing the forum should all be about but I am damned if you are going to tell me I am mixed up, you mix it along with the best of us.

I would love to see a united Scotland in all walks of life, also a united Kingdom but there is no way I have seen you trying to achieve this, you just bang your own drum, very loud most of the time

 

 

i,m sorry mylittle friend there was no intent ment ,i was thinking along the same lines as

you in the fact that your right the confederation what ch pied said should be looking to be running a race along the the same lines as they do in the continent , and they cry it

a international race from i think its barcaelona(rose ) would be able to give you more detail on that she helps out at these events and it could be for the whole of the british isles

but hey what about the weather , o.k. it could be lovely down south , but persisting of rain right from east to west and in to ireland and wales and north as far as you go , could be tried ,in the continent its flatter and all these countries lie on each others doorstep  but yo could be right little man worth a shot nothing ventured nothing gained