Guest Vic Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 It seems that the inland merchants in Liverpool want to knock a channel race or two, off the racing programme for the 2009 season. A "recommendation" meeting has been called, by a certain clique, to have comeback races. This will automatically reduce the number of channel races that we have. The call for this meeting, hasn't come from one of the Amal clubs, but through a few spoilers, under the guise of vice presidents. They must have had their own "meeting" surely? to put this "recommendation" forward. Can half a dozen be allowed to alter the normal racing programme by their clandestine behaviour? I was always under the impression, that any changes whatsoever, had to come from an Amal club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I believe their reason (or excuse) has something to do with the quarantine procedure set by DEFRA. Whereby you can only send a pigeon fortnightly. Nobody, has suffered more from this, than myself. I believe that my birds excel, on hard work, and unless I win this week., it will be the first time I haven't won a channel race for over thirty years.Some years my birds will fly five out of the six channel races. I sent eight last week to neer on 400 mile, and although off the pace, put seven in the clock. Tonight, we marked for the 500 miler and four of last weeks birds look as good, if not better, than the ones that have gone tonight. Sad ain't it? Surely the quarantine will not be here next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 hopefully vic it will be removed and these muppets get a grip and let the guys fly there birds the way the l/pool amal always has.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 hopefully vic it will be removed and these muppets get a grip and let the guys fly there birds the way the l/pool amal always has.. here here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 VIC are the l/amal at messac this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john robo Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 VIC are the l/amal at messac this weekend where at Niort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john robo Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 It seems that the inland merchants in Liverpool want to knock a channel race or two, off the racing programme for the 2009 season. A "recommendation" meeting has been called, by a certain clique, to have comeback races. This will automatically reduce the number of channel races that we have. The call for this meeting, hasn't come from one of the Amal clubs, but through a few spoilers, under the guise of vice presidents. They must have had their own "meeting" surely? to put this "recommendation" forward. Can half a dozen be allowed to alter the normal racing programme by their clandestine behaviour? I was always under the impression, that any changes whatsoever, had to come from an Amal club. could we not stay the same as now (6 channel) but use our own transporter to have a coast race on the samedays. sent 5 to niort this week never sent last week so i could have a go, first time for me 501 MILES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Vic Does this mean the end of the North West Combine can the Amal afford to go over the water on their own The Wirral will vote for 6, but the channel programme is on the decline now so not too sure how the rest will go John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 A club has to put a proposition forward but this is only a recommendation they cannot take it anywhere without ALL clubs voting on it John John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 could we not stay the same as now (6 channel) but use our own transporter to have a coast race on the samedays. sent 5 to niort this week never sent last week so i could have a go, first time for me 501 MILES. I can't see that happening John. Good luck from Niort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Vic Does this mean the end of the North West Combine can the Amal afford to go over the water on their own The Wirral will vote for 6, but the channel programme is on the decline now so not too sure how the rest will go John John, We will have to wait and see, but it looks like the thin end of the wedge to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pault Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 could we not stay the same as now (6 channel) but use our own transporter to have a coast race on the samedays. sent 5 to niort this week never sent last week so i could have a go, first time for me 501 MILES. sounds like the perfect answer to me let the channel lads mark at 1 central place and let the inland lads mark at another place then every one will be covered and the liverpool amal transporter will be getting used pault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Paul Will the writing then be on the wall for the end of the combine????? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 this seems to be a problem all over the country as the delegates are mostly distance orientated and at times represent them self in the decisions, rather than there feds or clubs. They never vote for all inland races as they are your voice but want distance ,but will not pay any more than they have to, but use your club as a piggy back ride to there aims the problem with the feds are the elected are set in there ways club racing is only training to them on the cheep there is plenty of distance racing going on but they will not go it alone so novices are kept and sprint racers are only just tolerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Bigda How can they represent themselves, all delegates are mandated by their clubs feds etc. The problem lies with nobody turning up to club meeting and fed meetings then decisions get passed and people complain. When you ask them did they vote they say I was not at the meeting... Enough said. In our fed we have 16 races inland and 6 over the channel how is that catering for the distance men?? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Bigda How can they represent themselves, all delegates are mandated by their clubs feds etc. The problem lies with nobody turning up to club meeting and fed meetings then decisions get passed and people complain. When you ask them did they vote they say I was not at the meeting... Enough said. In our fed we have 16 races inland and 6 over the channel how is that catering for the distance men?? John as you say, but where dose the novice or the sprint man fit in to racing, as they are not the minority, but are the back bone of the racing game, you see the distance flier, has only distance in his head, but there is a lot of other racing to be done before the distance is involved, you say people don"t turn up, show me the meeting that has there agenda solely for the sprint racer, or novice to be voted in to office, (99%) :X of officials in any club like to control the distance racing and thats a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter.j Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 it seems to me the pigeon game is the same as many others pigeon fanciers put the people who are making these decisions in to there positions so they can remove them if there not being represented properly. BUT as with most other things the majority keep quiet while a minority fight and bend over backwards to have things sorted to almost everyones advantage and when its all gone to pot the fella who did sweet f.a is the loudest moaner telling you how hes been screwed with new rules or regs passed rant over ....yis pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Paul Will the writing then be on the wall for the end of the combine????? John It certainly will! in my mind John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Bigda What are you classing as sprint races?/ John Vic Hope you get the amal topper at the weekend John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pault Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Paul Will the writing then be on the wall for the end of the combine????? John i dont think so john what makes you think that you will still be able to send with the combine and the inland lads will be racing aswell after all there is enough distance racing about with the midland and nfc and 2 bird clubs over the pond but the inland lads have non of this some of the liverpool lads would send to rainhill opens but alas they are no more and i think the west derby had them at one time i think my idea suits every one ps only 5 member sent over the pond from my club with only 29 birds going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 50-250 and then the officialdom take over bigger prize money for 350+500 races at this distance , no mention of 1,000 prize moneys for 50-250 mile races why not because the minority think they have no chance of wining it. and would not support it and thats a fact, fed delegates have him self first, then distance second, then the club third, so in your own clubs and feds think who is representing you and make it known that you expect equality you pay the same fee but are over looked so take note . dose a turkey vote for Christmas, but it is forced to comply and fill the need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter.j Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 50-250 and then the officialdom take over bigger prize money for 350+500 races at this distance , no mention of 1,000 prize moneys for 50-250 mile races why not because the minority think they have no chance of wining it. and would not support it and thats a fact, fed delegates have him self first, then distance second, then the club third, so in your own clubs and feds think who is representing you and make it known that you expect equality you pay the same fee but are over looked so take note . dose a turkey vote for Christmas, but it is forced to comply and fill the need hear hear as they say in the big club house at westminster...pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 i dont think so john what makes you think that you will still be able to send with the combine and the inland lads will be racing aswell after all there is enough distance racing about with the midland and nfc and 2 bird clubs over the pond but the inland lads have non of this some of the liverpool lads would send to rainhill opens but alas they are no more and i think the west derby had them at one time Paul, It seems that we are reverting back to the SDU days. (Milers) The racing of the future will be FROM Rainhill, if some guys (all ex SDU get their way) They should all be in Rainhill (MENTAL HOME) I think. They will kill the game in Liverpool by their greediness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 50-250 and then the officialdom take over bigger prize money for 350+500 races at this distance , no mention of 1,000 prize moneys for 50-250 mile races why not because the minority think they have no chance of wining it. and would not support it and thats a fact, fed delegates have him self first, then distance second, then the club third, so in your own clubs and feds think who is representing you and make it known that you expect equality you pay the same fee but are over looked so take note . dose a turkey vote for Christmas, but it is forced to comply and fill the need There is a difference you know, between a "donkey derby" and the Epsom Derby. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 There is a difference you know, between a "donkey derby" and the Epsom Derby. lol. thats only because the old codgers are at the helm just now changes are a coming ;D ;D 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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