geordie1234 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 Established national teams don't exist anymore m8, they are a thing of the past when there were very little losses and no BOP. What you need is an established stock team and that's what we all need to have longevity.Its funny how folk think, certain fanciers have this and that every year when in fact, the guys sending to ALL the nationals are usually left with very few but they hope they have the stock to reproduce what they've lost.Totally agree the key is to be able to replace your best
ForestForever74 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 Better with quality than quantity. From previous experience carrying forward youngsters that are not "battle hardened" is only delaying the inevitable IMHO Two races at 65 miles taking them up to 7/8 hours to get home, if they continue at that rate for the next 4 races, who wants to guess their millage for the season? and what constitutes "battle hardened"? I have some that have done 14 hours on the wing in two races not to mention training. I guess time will tell though mate, its been a shocker of a season so far for everyone in our club. I just hope it gets better for everyone involved.
flying fifer Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 Two races at 65 miles taking them up to 7/8 hours to get home, if they continue at that rate for the next 4 races, who wants to guess their millage for the season? and what constitutes "battle hardened"? I have some that have done 14 hours on the wing in two races not to mention training. I guess time will tell though mate, its been a shocker of a season so far for everyone in our club. I just hope it gets better for everyone involved. Battle hardened maybe the wrong phrase, what I mean is they need the experience of the basket and all that goes with a full season of racing as YB's. I've tried training them down the road myself to 100+ miles, giving them a couple of races then putting them bye, my best performers are those that have done the programme as YB's then had selective races as old birds. You need to work on a 5yr plan. How do you know the correct stock to breed from if you don't fully test the offspring. Many roads lead to Rome, can only comment on what has worked, or not worked for me
ForestForever74 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 Battle hardened maybe the wrong phrase, what I mean is they need the experience of the basket and all that goes with a full season of racing as YB's. I've tried training them down the road myself to 100+ miles, giving them a couple of races then putting them bye, my best performers are those that have done the programme as YB's then had selective races as old birds. You need to work on a 5yr plan. How do you know the correct stock to breed from if you don't fully test the offspring. Many roads lead to Rome, can only comment on what has worked, or not worked for me Yes they do mate and lots of questions to be answered here, I guess always learning is the important part. Del was right, getting cold feet after the last two races and struggling in numbers, we are tetchy to say the least and not enjoying our young bird season so far and as my auld man said before he went on holiday "If we are not enjoying it, whats the point" but he will be back refreshed and my week alone spent in the garden watching and listening has served its purpose. Good luck to the lads racing this week and we will be back in the mix next weekend :-)well I say mix, will be competing again :-)
geordie1234 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 after two seasons of stopping after the third race it has got me nowhere to be honest I have wintered a lot more doos needed only to go down...so this year each pigeon will go as far as the moult will allow
Pelican Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 Not going to send them this week plus only otterburn next week
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