Tic Beans

[Guest stb-]

Wish I lived in the land that it was all the fault ov the perigrine

you do live in that land the other 25% is down to you :emoticon-0140-rofl: fk just south of yous is *expletive removed* death valley if your there thereat the wrong time ,

[VMS]

you do live in that land the other 25% is down to you :emoticon-0140-rofl: fk just south of yous is *expletive removed* death valley if your there thereat the wrong time ,

Know many good fanciers that have too live with this but don't blame thielr failings pureley on them

 

Know many good fanciers that have too live with this but don't blame thielr failings pureley on them

Too many looking for an exclamation rather than looking in the mirror lol

[Guest stb-]

Know many good fanciers that have too live with this but don't blame thielr failings pureley on them

no you cant blame it all on them but they will eventually finnish of our sport of racing at the rate there multiplying at

[Guest Owen]

Following some of the remarks made here I thought I should clear up some of my opinions and attitudes. First of all, I live in an area where there are a lot of birds of prey. Whereas Goshawks used to live in the woodlands and it was mainly the Sparrow Hawks that caused problems around the lofts and in the gardens things have changed. The Goshawks are now attacking domestic poultry and pigeons around the lofts. We have always had Falcons but even that has changed because they used to hunt our pigeons away from the lofts and the female tried to drive them up so that the male could grab them. These days they are hunting at low levels in pairs and attack the pigeons very near the lofts. The changes to the hunting methods of both the Goshawks and the Falcons must surely be due to the fact that they are under pressure to to get enough food. Both these Predators have reduced the prey species and if this continues we will see less and less prey species. Birds like lapwings, skylarks and grouse and are becoming very rare now.

I have improved the situation for myself by the fact that I do not exercise my birds around the loft. They get a 10 mile training run most days and twice a day some days. The result of this training seems to cause the birds to fly hard and low which makes it a lot less likely that they will suffer an attack from the predators.

[Guest stb-]

Following some of the remarks made here I thought I should clear up some of my opinions and attitudes. First of all, I live in an area where there are a lot of birds of prey. Whereas Goshawks used to live in the woodlands and it was mainly the Sparrow Hawks that caused problems around the lofts and in the gardens things have changed. The Goshawks are now attacking domestic poultry and pigeons around the lofts. We have always had Falcons but even that has changed because they used to hunt our pigeons away from the lofts and the female tried to drive them up so that the male could grab them. These days they are hunting at low levels in pairs and attack the pigeons very near the lofts. The changes to the hunting methods of both the Goshawks and the Falcons must surely be due to the fact that they are under pressure to to get enough food. Both these Predators have reduced the prey species and if this continues we will see less and less prey species. Birds like lapwings, skylarks and grouse and are becoming very rare now.

I have improved the situation for myself by the fact that I do not exercise my birds around the loft. They get a 10 mile training run most days and twice a day some days. The result of this training seems to cause the birds to fly hard and low which makes it a lot less likely that they will suffer an attack from the predators.

100% correct Owen for the last few years they have been taking mine at loft using sparrowhawk tactics , bloody terrorises the birds in the loft to when they see them so close .

[just ask me]

falcons have beenm hunting like this for years around here very rarely i see the big swoop that the falcon was known for

[Guest IB]

falcons have beenm hunting like this for years around here very rarely i see the big swoop that the falcon was known for

 

I see a 200mph dive low onto a built-up area with all its collision risks from aerials wires and the like pretty risky for the falcon, and like all birds its not stupid to adopt that. I'd remarked before on these types of posts that peregrine hunting behaviour seemed to be evolving to suit built-up areas..

 

Locally, two peregrine behaviours have been seen, each an individual bird (1)sitting on a house roof and swooping on ferals as they flew past; (2)swooping at the front of a loft attempting to scare the pigeons sitting on it into taking to the air.

 

But I've also said that on level flight any pigeon will outpace a peregrine in pursuit. It's pure crap that a peregrine is the fastest bird on earth - if I fell from a plane for a time I'd be the fastest man on earth. It's powered flight and endurance that counts, and the pigeon comes out tops at 40/50mph, and all of them can do that for 200 miles / 5 hours if needs be.

[neila]

Following some of the remarks made here I thought I should clear up some of my opinions and attitudes. First of all, I live in an area where there are a lot of birds of prey. Whereas Goshawks used to live in the woodlands and it was mainly the Sparrow Hawks that caused problems around the lofts and in the gardens things have changed. The Goshawks are now attacking domestic poultry and pigeons around the lofts. We have always had Falcons but even that has changed because they used to hunt our pigeons away from the lofts and the female tried to drive them up so that the male could grab them. These days they are hunting at low levels in pairs and attack the pigeons very near the lofts. The changes to the hunting methods of both the Goshawks and the Falcons must surely be due to the fact that they are under pressure to to get enough food. Both these Predators have reduced the prey species and if this continues we will see less and less prey species. Birds like lapwings, skylarks and grouse and are becoming very rare now.

I have improved the situation for myself by the fact that I do not exercise my birds around the loft. They get a 10 mile training run most days and twice a day some days. The result of this training seems to cause the birds to fly hard and low which makes it a lot less likely that they will suffer an attack from the predators.

 

Hi Owen

can I ask if I have understood that you train just 10 miles and at the most twice a day so the max your birds would be in the air each day would be 20-25 mins and some days just 10mins or so

so you do not worry about the idea that the birds must be flying a hour Am and Pm