Jannsen Pigeons Strain Will Carry On

[blue lad]

Ray blower flys very well with his janssens .I had one of his birthday few years ago on the rig down off Norwich .took it back with me up to Doncaster in train .a very nice man offered me pair off his top producers.unfortunately I did not have pigeons at the time .

[Guest stb-]

Does Alan Maul wales not do real well with his direct janseen at the distance .

[plumber]

I'm currently reading the Jannsen book by Ad Schaerlaeckens, very enlightening, most of todays fashionable "strains", eg. Koopmans, Camphus, Vandenbeeles, Hartogs etc all contain blood from original Jannsens direct from Arendonk. IMO These guys were masters in the art of line breeding, the decendants of their birds are still winning all over the world.

Schaerlackens is quite clear that the the bros were not interested in making money from the birds and never extended their lofts to house more to sell which could have made them very rich, instead they wanted to keep the majority to race themselves and sold very few in proportion to what they bred.

[Guest maricelbill]

good point that alun's jansens do fairly well is true. they certainly are not sought after as before though.

[BLACK W F]

those are today's birds alan, they're alive mate. their parents are direct janssens from the 90s. what i'm wondering is if the guy went back racing with those same pigeons today would they be successful, or have pigeons gotten faster in 20 yrs. were the janssens a spent force even in the 90s when the parents of the birds i saw during the week were sent over.

 

or are they just as capable of winning. you don't hear of jansens winning today that are that close to the originals.

 

or do you?

 

 

B'

most familys carry janssen blood in them and theres plenty out there winning wi janssens

[just ask me]

I'm currently reading the Jannsen book by Ad Schaerlaeckens, very enlightening, most of todays fashionable "strains", eg. Koopmans, Camphus, Vandenbeeles, Hartogs etc all contain blood from original Jannsens direct from Arendonk. IMO These guys were masters in the art of line breeding, the decendants of their birds are still winning all over the world.

Schaerlackens is quite clear that the the bros were not interested in making money from the birds and never extended their lofts to house more to sell which could have made them very rich, instead they wanted to keep the majority to race themselves and sold very few in proportion to what they bred.

 

 

the jansens were the masters of publicity and charged a arm and a leg even as far back as before world war 2

 

prob the best racer of the Jansens was the 019 fanastic bird no doubt the olieman of van der vegan was a better bird and beat the 019 many times only they raced in different clubs but they lived very close to each other the 019 would have had a lot more 2nds if he had of raced against the olieman van der vegan was never one for the limelight the bird never really got the plaudits it deserved

 

they were brilliant business man have no doubt about that one

[just ask me]

im recently looking at the kbdb middle distance and sprint champions for the last 10 year trying to find them all is hard work to date i cant see one bird from the jannsens in the peds

[BLACK W F]

the jansens were the masters of publicity and charged a arm and a leg even as far back as before world war 2

 

prob the best racer of the Jansens was the 019 fanastic bird no doubt the olieman of van der vegan was a better bird and beat the 019 many times only they raced in different clubs but they lived very close to each other the 019 would have had a lot more 2nds if he had of raced against the olieman van der vegan was never one for the limelight the bird never really got the plaudits it deserved

 

they were brilliant business man have no doubt about that one

very true JAM that's why they sold only a few each year for big money better to sell a few and do it forever than flood the market

[Wiley]

im recently looking at the kbdb middle distance and sprint champions for the last 10 year trying to find them all is hard work to date i cant see one bird from the jannsens in the peds

 

On the otherhand you will find some of the Oliemans descendants in some

[just ask me]

very true JAM that's why they sold only a few each year for big money better to sell a few and do it forever than flood the market

 

 

alan were you at the natural breeding station

 

 

On the otherhand you will find some of the Oliemans descendants in some

 

 

Fieneke was some bird ;)

[Wiley]

alan were you at the natural breeding station

 

 

 

 

Fieneke was some bird ;)

 

Wasn't Gust Jansen Olympiaad 003(Leo Heremans), from a line of a niece of the Olieman

[just ask me]

Wasn't Gust Jansen Olympiaad 003(Leo Heremans), from a line of a niece of the Olieman

 

 

you have me on that one wiley must have a look on koen's site

 

the fieneke of veroout (spelling) left a impressive list of winners

 

 

surprised they never really made it over here in a big way or i could be wrong again lol

[Wiley]

I maybe wrong, i was only having a conversation the other day and got muddled up with the Olieman and the Oliepot of Jeff Vereheyes ( Maurice's brother)

[Guest maricelbill]

you're correct ryan it was oileman.

 

who is fienke?

 

and who is koen?

[just ask me]

you're correct ryan it was oileman.

 

who is fienke?

 

and who is koen?

 

 

fienke 5000 an left a long line of winners after it flown by veroout (spelling)

 

koen van roy bought the olypmaid of leo hermans if im right in his last total sale around 07 or 08 not sure about that leo had said he was not filling so well anymore but koen managed to get birds from him

 

hes a buyer mostly of big name pigeons he used to fly well in the mid 2000s with his soontjens and koopmans im not so sure if he flys now or what his results are like he keeps a lot of the de rauw sablon etc now

 

he also had a real good breeder off the 155 of herbots another soonjen