Jim Jenner Talks To Jim Emerton

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Some interesting points coming out of Jim Emerton's meeting with Jim Jenner.

 

Heres whats Jim Jenner had to say on the future of pigeon racing in the world.

 

"I think the future is mixed but bright. Much depends on what we do in the next decade. In some countries we will see membership growth and continuing escalation in the price of pigeons [although I think the Chinese bubble will eventually burst]. In other areas, such as the UK and USA, participation is dwindling and the membership is ageing. But as the number of fanciers dwindles I've noticed those who remain are more serious about their efforts.

 

However I like to say that the pigeon sport is not dying, it's committing suicide. On both sides of the Atlantic we've wasted time and effort raising money for outside charities when our own sport desperately needs all the legal and marketing muscle possible. We've ignored the linkage between feral pigeons and anti-pigeon regulations. And we are only just now discovering that showing society how positive pigeons can be for children is an avenue to protect our very right to keep birds in our back garden. The amount of bad management of our image by the many national racing organizations charged with furthering the hobby is breathtaking. I say that as a businessman with a background in marketing and media.

 

That said, I'm hopeful. I believe technology will have a profound effect on our hobby. The day is coming when returning race birds will be able to be tracked, in real time, on their way home. The ability to connect all the electronic timing systems of lofts in a race is relatively simple. So we are close to a day when major races can literally be watched online.

 

This technology is almost certain to stimulate some sort of television/internet coverage of our hobby. I can't begin to emphasize the impact that may have on the public's interest in the sport. Yes, it will bring the animal rights people too, but it will definitely attract more people to the hobby.

 

My greatest fear is that we won't balance the growth of the money and gambling side of the racing sport with an equal effort to promote the power of domestic pigeons to bring nature to unnatural places. By that I mean the power of our birds to be a positive force in the lives of the young and old who keep them. If we don't promote that ancient facet of our hobby then we will only be about the money and the birds become simply a tool to win it. As I listen to some of the hysterical comments about million-dollar auctions and one loft races I think of this. The people I respect the least in our hobby are the ones who talk the most about the money."

 

 

Whats your thoughts??

[alec guinness]

Some interesting points coming out of Jim Emerton's meeting with Jim Jenner.

 

Heres whats Jim Jenner had to say on the future of pigeon racing in the world.

 

"I think the future is mixed but bright. Much depends on what we do in the next decade. In some countries we will see membership growth and continuing escalation in the price of pigeons [although I think the Chinese bubble will eventually burst]. In other areas, such as the UK and USA, participation is dwindling and the membership is ageing. But as the number of fanciers dwindles I've noticed those who remain are more serious about their efforts.

 

However I like to say that the pigeon sport is not dying, it's committing suicide. On both sides of the Atlantic we've wasted time and effort raising money for outside charities when our own sport desperately needs all the legal and marketing muscle possible. We've ignored the linkage between feral pigeons and anti-pigeon regulations. And we are only just now discovering that showing society how positive pigeons can be for children is an avenue to protect our very right to keep birds in our back garden. The amount of bad management of our image by the many national racing organizations charged with furthering the hobby is breathtaking. I say that as a businessman with a background in marketing and media.

 

That said, I'm hopeful. I believe technology will have a profound effect on our hobby. The day is coming when returning race birds will be able to be tracked, in real time, on their way home. The ability to connect all the electronic timing systems of lofts in a race is relatively simple. So we are close to a day when major races can literally be watched online.

 

This technology is almost certain to stimulate some sort of television/internet coverage of our hobby. I can't begin to emphasize the impact that may have on the public's interest in the sport. Yes, it will bring the animal rights people too, but it will definitely attract more people to the hobby.

 

My greatest fear is that we won't balance the growth of the money and gambling side of the racing sport with an equal effort to promote the power of domestic pigeons to bring nature to unnatural places. By that I mean the power of our birds to be a positive force in the lives of the young and old who keep them. If we don't promote that ancient facet of our hobby then we will only be about the money and the birds become simply a tool to win it. As I listen to some of the hysterical comments about million-dollar auctions and one loft races I think of this. The people I respect the least in our hobby are the ones who talk the most about the money."

 

 

Whats your thoughts??

 

not always a big fan of Jim Emerton Lewis but a lot of sense has been spoken here unfortunately the apathy in the doo game will stop it from moving forward. :)very interesting though.

[OLDYELLOW]

Jim Jenner , he's the one who makes films surely he could make one to be used as a educational tool in schools ????? oops forgot no money in that :emoticon-0127-lipssealed: :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

not always a big fan of Jim Emerton Lewis but a lot of sense has been spoken here unfortunately the apathy in the doo game will stop it from moving forward. :)very interesting though.

 

I'd borrowed some of the Jim Jenner films from a friend recently so when I saw this article with Jim Emerton was up I gave it a read.

 

I've been enjoying Jim Jenner's films and would have to say from from what I've seen and heard hes a pretty positive influence in the game today

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Jim Jenner , he's the one who makes films surely he could make one to be used as a educational tool in schools ????? oops forgot no money in that :emoticon-0127-lipssealed: :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

 

Hes touched on work going on with pigeons within schools and young offendors institutes etc. in his previous films

 

heres the next part of the interview

 

"In 2012 I will be working on finishing a short film called "Young Wings: The Power of Pigeons". It's something of my own story with pigeons and my effort to show how they can address what is called Nature Deficit Disorder in children. This is a newly diagnosed condition that results from too much technology and no contact with nature. It's a very serious problem in the developed world. This film is the story of my search to see if pigeons are as powerful for children today as they were when they changed my life. I personally believe that our ability to prove we can improve children's lives is a key factor in the survival of our hobby. And I don't just mean racing but being allowed to keep pigeons at all.

 

People have heard about this project and said I'm doing a film aimed at children. But that is wrong. Kids are easy to interest in pigeons. I've found that our first target needs to be educators and parents who govern what children are allowed to do. This will be a short work, ideal for a presentation to a group. My hope is it becomes a tool for pigeon people to stimulate interest in using the birds with children. I plan to finish it by mid-summer. It's taken longer than I thought simply because I've kept finding good stories to add to it.

 

We are also working on translating many of my 12 films into other languages.

 

And finally I'm going to do what I hope is a funny and entertaining film for beginners called "How to Raise and Train Pigeons". In all the projects I've done there is not a basic, entry level piece and I'd like to fill that gap.

 

So this year is a lot more about general interest material for the outside world than the latest methods of top fanciers. People can read about some of these projects at our website: www.pigeonfilms.com."

[KMCK]

Just pick up on the post am only 26 but the birds have been in our family for over 60years my father brother and I took them over after my grand father death as they were his life and we didn't want what he had spent 60 years building and working hard at to mean nothing and somebody coming in and buying his doos for a fiver so we decide to form a partnership to keep his legecy going as we always found it a way that got all the family together, the way we see it is the pigeons are a part of our family and they always will be, but the sport in the uk need to look within to try and sort out how we can get a younger crowd in, now a lot of people are scared of with the money that has to be put in at the bigining ie get bird baskets clock and that's before you have even put a seed in there mouths so how do you get pass that does the national organizations get tegether and offer them a start up fund to get them started in the sport ie race for free in your first year or gift them a clock in the first year get them involved and at the end of the first season the money for the clock gets taken out of any prize money you have won , what am saying is there must be a way to get the younger generation involved and that must be looked at now to get sport back to what it was 25 30 years ago

 

Does any one else think like this

 

Sorry for been so long winded

[OLDYELLOW]

Well if he can make educational videos for schools surely the unions should talk to the education and distribute them to schools throughout the country this could easily be done with show of the year moneys We need to get the song bird and wild bird message to the next generation this will be the only way you'd stop people donating to R.S.P.B

[Guest bluemorning]

can anyone remember kes the film,i was about elevenish at the time and everybody wanted a kestrel,if a pigeon film could create the same drama and put pigeons in better standing that they have now,it could go a long way to change the future.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

can anyone remember kes the film,i was about elevenish at the time and everybody wanted a kestrel,if a pigeon film could create the same drama and put pigeons in better standing that they have now,it could go a long way to change the future.

 

 

[We man]

Just pick up on the post am only 26 but the birds have been in our family for over 60years my father brother and I took them over after my grand father death as they were his life and we didn't want what he had spent 60 years building and working hard at to mean nothing and somebody coming in and buying his doos for a fiver so we decide to form a partnership to keep his legecy going as we always found it a way that got all the family together, the way we see it is the pigeons are a part of our family and they always will be, but the sport in the uk need to look within to try and sort out how we can get a younger crowd in, now a lot of people are scared of with the money that has to be put in at the bigining ie get bird baskets clock and that's before you have even put a seed in there mouths so how do you get pass that does the national organizations get tegether and offer them a start up fund to get them started in the sport ie race for free in your first year or gift them a clock in the first year get them involved and at the end of the first season the money for the clock gets taken out of any prize money you have won , what am saying is there must be a way to get the younger generation involved and that must be looked at now to get sport back to what it was 25 30 years ago

 

Does any one else think like this

 

Sorry for been so long winded

[We man]

Just pick up on the post am only 26 but the birds have been in our family for over 60years my father brother and I took them over after my grand father death as they were his life and we didn't want what he had spent 60 years building and working hard at to mean nothing and somebody coming in and buying his doos for a fiver so we decide to form a partnership to keep his legecy going as we always found it a way that got all the family together, the way we see it is the pigeons are a part of our family and they always will be, but the sport in the uk need to look within to try and sort out how we can get a younger crowd in, now a lot of people are scared of with the money that has to be put in at the bigining ie get bird baskets clock and that's before you have even put a seed in there mouths so how do you get pass that does the national organizations get tegether and offer them a start up fund to get them started in the sport ie race for free in your first year or gift them a clock in the first year get them involved and at the end of the first season the money for the clock gets taken out of any prize money you have won , what am saying is there must be a way to get the younger generation involved and that must be looked at now to get sport back to what it was 25 30 years ago

 

Does any one else think like this

 

Sorry for been so long winded

[Great idea there just wish something like that could get up and running

[just ask me]

hopefully with following the birds home from a race happens at one loft races noting like waiting for a bird in your own back yard would be a shocker if it went mainstream jmo

 

some good points though