Somthink A Friend Has Put Together

[lvlasked]

here a site a friend put together if you could please put this link about be very greatful also what else would you like to see on the site ?

 

http://saveourracingpigeons.yolasite.com/

[OLDYELLOW]

Totally wrong angle save our pigeons I'm sure we all can breed enough each year to feed bops and there will still be an abundance of ferals , now if was British wild birds / song birds then it would be worth while as no one to my knowledge is breeding these in great number but there numbers are decreasing rapidly because of the over population of BOPS

[Guest bluemorning]

agree 90 per cent

[OLDYELLOW]

http://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/index.html

[lvlasked]

ok i can tell him

[Fair Play]

On the nail Old Yellow but would never knock back any effort that highlights our plight

[preston powerblast]

Too much is being said about wild birds even the RPRA are hiding behind it. I don't think there is enough emphasis on the racing pigeons, why because of the stigma attached to them.

Namely tags like Rats With Wings.

Perhaps this is why nobody wants to actually take the time to promote our sport and try and re educate the public on pigeons.

I have written much in the past about the decline of the Song Thrush, The Bullfinch, The Hedge Sparrow, but I think it's actually about time something was written and voiced about the decline of our sport, which after all said and done is part of the working man's heritage of this country.

[jimmy_bulger]

meself peronally i think the RPRA are a gang of spineless freeloading barstools just like all of the unions in the uk ;-0 who dont give a flying fook about the feelings or the plight of the rank and file members.

and they can can get away with it because the rank and file members are like them (spineless beyond belief) they cry and *expletive removed* about everthing but will not do fook all about it.

this is why we are in the sheet we are in.

just my opinion and if it has offended you please feel free to bring it to the attention of the spinless F****rs you support and suck upto.

regards.

jimmy

[Guest darren cantrill]

meself peronally i think the RPRA are a gang of spineless freeloading barstools just like all of the unions in the uk ;-0 who dont give a flying fook about the feelings or the plight of the rank and file members.

and they can can get away with it because the rank and file members are like them (spineless beyond belief) they cry and *expletive removed* about everthing but will not do fook all about it.

this is why we are in the sheet we are in.

just my opinion and if it has offended you please feel free to bring it to the attention of the spinless F****rs you support and suck upto.

regards.

jimmy

 

think that says it alland straight to the point

[BLACK W F]

meself peronally i think the RPRA are a gang of spineless freeloading barstools just like all of the unions in the uk ;-0 who dont give a flying fook about the feelings or the plight of the rank and file members.

and they can can get away with it because the rank and file members are like them (spineless beyond belief) they cry and *expletive removed* about everthing but will not do fook all about it.

this is why we are in the sheet we are in.

just my opinion and if it has offended you please feel free to bring it to the attention of the spinless F****rs you support and suck upto.

regards.

jimmy

well said Jimmy remove the ones sitting on their arses getting big fat salarys and doing sweet f a for the fancy its time the members of all the unions replaced these morons and joined to gether as one voice JMO

[preston powerblast]

Good points guys and the only way to get then to do summat about it is to exert pressure on them and there delegates who are supposed to support us and our regions.

Everyone involved in the fancy needs to forget their differences and agree on two points.

1. There is a growing concern about the increasing attacks on our birds.

2. We need the powers that be the RPRA to support us and spend some of our money, bringing our concerns to the public.

I only made the site 2 days ago, but it's getting lots of support judging by the volumes of emails we are getting.

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

ITS THE GETTING THEM TO LISTEN .THEY WANT TO DOO ALL THE TALKING .RULES FOR FOOLS .///

[preston powerblast]

Make enough noise they will have to listen

What has also surprised me is on the Hawk Watch map at the RPRA there is only one attack on their map past Carlisle, surely this cannot be right.

My link

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

THEY TELL THAT MUCH LIES I THINK THEY ARE STARTING TO BELEAVE IT THEMSELVES .I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO A WORD THEY SAY COSS ITS ALL CRAP.///

[preston powerblast]

I agree mate and maybe there's thousands of other fanciers, who feel the same way. But unless everyone speaks up and let their feelings be known, they will continue to rail road us.

I am just but just one man, with one voice, with one website.

I'm afraid the time has come to try and do something about this whole mess.

[OLDYELLOW]

There's sites that have been on go for many years such as save our song birds , this angle is far much better no-one gives a dam about our pigeons there called rats with wings to the general public , do you think a 5 year lock up would stop fanciers flying there birds out or stop racing the answer is NO , as long as we race and breed prey for bops then we are our own worse enemy's . How do you raise the profile of our plight simple wild birds and song birds , these aren't been bred and released in huge numbers by anyone nor are the wild birds producing significant to repopulate against the killing machine of bops , it is of my opinion the only way to get the government to notice is this send every federation wagon down to London and bring it to a stand still protest outside number 10 at the injustice of protecting bops over many red listed species then we might get somewhere , even the governments hired commercial van billboards to get there message across we could do the same , bit of money and plenty of coaches organised this could even make the news , but I tell ya this not one person will agree , it's a case of i'm alright Jack i'll sit on my hands someone else will do it for me , this hobby is full of this type of person , these are the ones that tend to blame others of cheating or using drugs or generally slagging over fanciers because of there success and there lack of it , where a dying sport and most bits are already non responsive and dead

[preston powerblast]

There's sites that have been on go for many years such as save our song birds , this angle is far much better no-one gives a dam about our pigeons there called rats with wings to the general public , do you think a 5 year lock up would stop fanciers flying there birds out or stop racing the answer is NO , as long as we race and breed prey for bops then we are our own worse enemy's . How do you raise the profile of our plight simple wild birds and song birds , these aren't been bred and released in huge numbers by anyone nor are the wild birds producing significant to repopulate against the killing machine of bops , it is of my opinion the only way to get the government to notice is this send every federation wagon down to London and bring it to a stand still protest outside number 10 at the injustice of protecting bops over many red listed species then we might get somewhere , even the governments hired commercial van billboards to get there message across we could do the same , bit of money and plenty of coaches organised this could even make the news , but I tell ya this not one person will agree , it's a case of i'm alright Jack i'll sit on my hands someone else will do it for me , this hobby is full of this type of person , these are the ones that tend to blame others of cheating or using drugs or generally slagging over fanciers because of there success and there lack of it , where a dying sport and most bits are already non responsive and dead

[jimmy_bulger]

think 1st, thing to do is to get organised and all email or post a letter en block to your union demanding that all unions get together and make the funds available to get the likes of jim jenner to do a 1 hour documentary on the plight of the racing pigeon sport in the uk,highlighting the raptor problem we all have and also the detrimental effect on song bird population.

 

2.send a copy of said documentary to all existing mps and then canvas your own mp to raise the question in the commons as to why we are not listened to.

 

3.then approach all terestial tv stations to see if they would air the said documentary and then see what the response is and act on it.

 

probly never happen but if we dont get organised the racing pigeon game in the uk will probly go the way of the dinosaurs in 25 years or so.

[preston powerblast]

I myself was part of a group, who worked for three years, taking photographs and submitting articles concerning the disappearance of various wild birds. These being, The Bullfinch, Greenfinch, Chaffinch, The House sparrow and The Song Thrush. Our investigations were for conservation purposes, so our accounts were unbiased.

But there were other contributing factors than just bops.

Attacks on racing pigeons are are conclusive and are caused solely by BOPS.

The public need to be re educated where it comes to racing pigeons and I think resources should be directed more towards this.

I have loads of non fanciers visit us and as they are leaving they all say the same thing.

That is they didn't realise that they were so different to street pigeons.

[preston powerblast]

Some excellent points raised there JB.

[Guest darren cantrill]

they have done their own study and admit 46% of a peregrines diet is pigeon i didnt pull it out of thin air the figure is real (wells and ruddock peregrine study northern ireland) they also admit how many peregrines fledged that year.terry pickford northwest raptor group read his study on why the numbers of peregrines fluctuate answer racing pigeon numbers flying through cumbria affects his region. the list is endless they admit they wouldnt be able to support the largest ever recorded number of peregrines without you the fancier subsidising their diet with pigeons its that simple they also give us the statistics of what happened to the buzzard whos diet was made up of 45% rabbit when myxomatosis cut the rabbit numbers in half THEY LOST 33% of the buzzards in 1 breeding season IMAGINE 1 YEAR OF NO RACING!!! thats all it would take its as simple as that at least it would bring the rspb to the table theyve had a gun to your heads for the last 20 years but if you dont hurry up you might as well pull the trigger yourselves jimmy sometimes you have to say it as it is and i for 1 applaud you and to the man who designed the sight dont be scared of putting the figures up my friend its their data use it against them and welldone its amazing what a bit of effort can do i applaud you aswell

[preston powerblast]

Cheers Darren, some really interesting facts there mate.

This is the sort of info that I am looking for, great stuff mate, thanks.

It will make a good addition to the next page I'm working on.

[Guest darren cantrill]

Cheers Darren, some really interesting facts there mate.

This is the sort of info that I am looking for, great stuff mate, thanks.

It will make a good addition to the next page I'm working on.

 

theres so much of their study and information data to go through my friend some of it is shocking its best you look at it yourself first i can point you in the right direction try the european peregrine falcon working group alot of information on there especially from their meeting in poland. if you look up people who have written books on peregrines theres a few. look in the notes for research assistants, study data etc alot of these were researches done with public funding they cant encrypt the file data.

[preston powerblast]

Hi Darren thanks for that. I have over the last hour been doing some reading. To say they fanatical or maybe a little extreme would be an understatement.

However my search did lead me to an article about gamekeepers erecting a pigeon loft in the Forest Of Bowland solely to feed the BOP population, so that their game birds would be would remain in relative safety.

[Guest darren cantrill]