Who Needs Rooney

[Roland]

No one etc. Man U. or any other club. Yes is a world class club player... full stop.

Best thing ever to happen for England is his banns for being what he is, an arrogant self centre moron, who lives above his reality statues.

He's not playing for Man U and favoured bias refs.

But not England Like the players has stated. He hasn't got the temperament or brain power to do the job. Fine when training with club mates who are revolving round each other.

Some spout the rubbish that the others aren't good enough to read his game. Well, the opposite is doubly true, he isn't clever enough to read the TEAM'S game ESPECIALLY after the manager spells it out week in and week out every time they get together.

Now we have Sturrigde for a try out. Think he and Walbeck would be great and fearless.

Just look at the depth of talent coming through the under 21's who have done so well. Yes time for the big pond I believe.

Terry, Lampard, Ferdinand etc. should be gone. Gerrand if recovered and fit would be the only one of the Old Brigade' left I believe.

The side on Saturday played for a draw, or decent result. THEY played as a Team ... a team that Rooney couldn't even begin to understand, neither his ego that the Team are supposedly to play for him.

Ok. Saturday was a great result and up builder, but there is of course a long way to go.

Plus many more good youngsters are to be tried and tested.

They did as they were told and stuck to a game plan ... again something Rooney couldn't even begin to understand.

They were fearless... and the under dogs which took a little pressure of them no doubt, but the pressure was they to do well and as told, so they came through with flying colours. Yes wasn't good to watch, but hey, it's the result that matters eh.

And still a few great youngsters coming through.

[just ask me]

the man problem with England for the last 10 or so years is that they had no paul scholes lampard and gerrard just cant play these guys together gerrard just feeds off a striker and can not run a game from midfield lampard is not much better and if you can get hold of the ball in mid field it does not make a difference who you have playing upfront

 

scott parker should be a must on that team cant believe it took harry till the last days of the transfer market to sign him if England should wrap him up in cotton wool

 

 

agree with john terry think he has been way over rated for way too long

[Roland]

Yep. But the 'Old Guard' so to speak have had chances galore, and just haven't performed, or been upto the job.

A new broom has been needed for quite some time.

But I'm am really suprised Cappello hasn'r had the balls to face 'Public' crap and got shot of. the silly media talk regards might still take Rooney ... I bet he is silently rubbing his hands in delight.

Why I think possiblt Gerrard could stay in as he is actually very inspirational and lifts a team... especially good for young blood which will respect him. He is and has been a good role model to boot... Unlike the other shower ...

[just ask me]

Yep. But the 'Old Guard' so to speak have had chances galore, and just haven't performed, or been upto the job.

A new broom has been needed for quite some time.

But I'm am really suprised Cappello hasn'r had the balls to face 'Public' crap and got shot of. the silly media talk regards might still take Rooney ... I bet he is silently rubbing his hands in delight.

Why I think possiblt Gerrard could stay in as he is actually very inspirational and lifts a team... especially good for young blood which will respect him. He is and has been a good role model to boot... Unlike the other shower ...

 

 

i dont know about the perfect role model apart from his up and down performances and sometimes can not be involved in a game for ages as games pass him by and also some of the tackles which i have no doubt were to injure his fellow pros fighting and rowing in nightclubs and the streets is hardly the role model we want our kids to look up too

[dwh]

ROLY ROONEY IS A QUALITY PLAYER AND IS AT THIS MOMENT THE BEST ENGLISH PLAYER IN HIS POSITION

AND I TOTALLY DISAGREE ABOUT GERRARD HE'S AS ARROGANT AS ROONEY BUT TO BE HONEST A BETTER ROLE MODEL

BUT AS FOR BEING INSPIRATIONAL THATS VERY DEBATABLE

 

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH ENGLAND IS THEY NOT GOOD ENOUGH

[Roland]

DWH, I agree and have stated that Rooney is not only a great player, but world class... But not for internationals.

 

When I think about it, seriously, let's be honest here, the old brigade have had their chances galore and proved themselves - wouldn't say useless but not far off. Too big headed and disrespectful and a sham. Very much lacking in pride at that... I know their chant ;We have a ferrari so F*** you'. Then look at the youngsters coming throiugh. They do as asked for starters as they proved against Spain. Boring maybe, but then not only got the result of not being beat, but won!

And some more good ones too. They play fearlessly, and for each over.

All Rooney's ever done is give away penalties - what the heck he was / doe / doing there as a up front supposedly lone striker one never knows.

Gets sent of, and rarely scores. Some say - stupidly in my opinion - that is because he is so good that other team mates are up to his standard :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-

If that was so, then all the more reason to get shot off eh!

Daglish, Barnes, even Shearer who went nearly 40 games without scoring, proved to be good Club players full stop, but failed miserably at international level. Gosh just how many chances does Rooney want to prove he's not up to it!

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

CORRECT.

[Guest bigda]

i think england's problems are, when they want to pick a team nearer the world cup or championship, they then tend to forget the northern players, they seem to always want guys, that are in and around the big smoke.

[dwh]

DWH, I agree and have stated that Rooney is not only a great player, but world class... But not for internationals.

 

When I think about it, seriously, let's be honest here, the old brigade have had their chances galore and proved themselves - wouldn't say useless but not far off. Too big headed and disrespectful and a sham. Very much lacking in pride at that... I know their chant ;We have a ferrari so F*** you'. Then look at the youngsters coming throiugh. They do as asked for starters as they proved against Spain. Boring maybe, but then not only got the result of not being beat, but won!

And some more good ones too. They play fearlessly, and for each over.

All Rooney's ever done is give away penalties - what the heck he was / doe / doing there as a up front supposedly lone striker one never knows.

Gets sent of, and rarely scores. Some say - stupidly in my opinion - that is because he is so good that other team mates are up to his standard :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-

If that was so, then all the more reason to get shot off eh!

Daglish, Barnes, even Shearer who went nearly 40 games without scoring, proved to be good Club players full stop, but failed miserably at international level. Gosh just how many chances does Rooney want to prove he's not up to it!

YOUR RIGHT THE OLD BRIGADE HAVE HAD THERE DAY

AND ITS TME FOR THE YOUNG TO BE GIVEN THERE CHANCE EVEN AT THE COST OF THE EURO'S

BUT ROONEY STILL HAS A PART IN THE ENGLAND TEAM

AND MOST OF THE OP INTERNATIONAL TOP SCORES ARE IN THE BEST TEAMS

HOW MANY GOALS HAS MESSI SCORED ???????

IS HE NOT WORLD CLASS

[budgie]

Celtic:celtic:

[Roland]

Messi is there to be counted. Distracts and makes room and goals for others... So yes he is worth his place, wieght in gold. Further like Rooney he is world class at club level... internationals means 2 - 3 have to keep an eye on him.

But tell me just when did Rooney E4VER shine or do anything good for England... More chance Rooney adding 5 plus six than stating when he has excelled. Always let down badly when needed most... Giving away penalities sending off.. The brain dead creatin thinks the Refs are the same as ref Man U lol :emoticon-0136-giggle: No have too many chances and has proved overwhemingly that he has notghing to offer England.

Quicker shot of and forgotten the better.

[dwh]

Messi is there to be counted. Distracts and makes room and goals for others... So yes he is worth his place, wieght in gold. Further like Rooney he is world class at club level... internationals means 2 - 3 have to keep an eye on him.

But tell me just when did Rooney E4VER shine or do anything good for England... More chance Rooney adding 5 plus six than stating when he has excelled. Always let down badly when needed most... Giving away penalities sending off.. The brain dead creatin thinks the Refs are the same as ref Man U lol :emoticon-0136-giggle: No have too many chances and has proved overwhemingly that he has notghing to offer England.

Quicker shot of and forgotten the better.

WELL WE'LL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ROONEYS RATIO IS APPROX 3-1

BUT REMBER THIS SHEARERS AND OTHERS RATIO IS BETTER OVER A LONGER PERIOD

BUT ROONEY IS OFTEN PLAYED WIDE

AND THE QUESTION IS ARE THE TEAM AROUND HIM AS GOOD AS OTHER GENERATIONS

HE HAS LIKE BECKHAM BEEN SENT OFF TWICE AND BECKHAM 'S WERE IN MORE IMPORTANT GAMES

ARE YOU SAYING BECKHAM WAS A LIABILITY :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[just ask me]

as i said before rooney does not get the service at International level neither gerrard or lampard can pick the ball up off the back 4 and play it into rooney like for e.g paul scholes could both want to play off a striker that is where england problem has been for years jmo

[dwh]

as i said before rooney does not get the service at International level neither gerrard or lampard can pick the ball up off the back 4 and play it into rooney like for e.g paul scholes could both want to play off a striker that is where england problem has been for years jmo

THIS IS MY POINT HOW MANY WOULD HE SCORE IF LIKE LINNEKER HE HAD A PETER BEARDSLY BEHIND HIM

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

ROONEY TO SCORE TONIGHT.///

[just ask me]

and this is a tougher tournament to win than any world cup the toughest in the world at the moment

[Roland]

WELL WE'LL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ROONEYS RATIO IS APPROX 3-1

BUT REMBER THIS SHEARERS AND OTHERS RATIO IS BETTER OVER A LONGER PERIOD

BUT ROONEY IS OFTEN PLAYED WIDE

AND THE QUESTION IS ARE THE TEAM AROUND HIM AS GOOD AS OTHER GENERATIONS

HE HAS LIKE BECKHAM BEEN SENT OFF TWICE AND BECKHAM 'S WERE IN MORE IMPORTANT GAMES

ARE YOU SAYING BECKHAM WAS A LIABILITY :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

Exactly! So lets pretend that rooney's greatness bears merit and others aren't good enough around him ... then it proves my point ... Forget him and lets have a worker / thinker that the others can relate to and play with.

:egyptian:

 

Greasoe was the best by far on ratio to games. Was slagged off via Ramsey and many others for being Lazy. But was there to score.

Likewise Gento ... only averages 29 .5 seconds on the ball, but scored! Rooney can't, and doesn't.