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HI iv got a hen in mr breeding loft and i carnt read the pedigree can any one help thanks

[just ask me]

photo of the ped might help

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photo of the ped might help

trying mate wernt do it

[frank-123]

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[just ask me]

this is in the help section mate

 

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u find it here http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=active&period=today&search_filter_app[core]=1

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thats what i use also got a friend thats Dutch

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this is the ped if anyone can help

[OLDYELLOW]

Its too dull fer me to help but there's not much info on there other than names

[just ask me]

if that the jonge rocket at the bottom of the ped that a jannsen pigeon if im right the jonge rocket was colsely related to the famous 019 of jannsens

 

but as oy says hard to read the ped

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if that the jonge rocket at the bottom of the ped that a jannsen pigeon if im right the jonge rocket was colsely related to the famous 019 of jannsens

 

but as oy says hard to read the ped

just made it a bit better

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

HI iv got a hen in mr breeding loft and i carnt read the pedigree can any one help thanks

 

What age is the hen you have??

[Wiley]

if that the jonge rocket at the bottom of the ped that a jannsen pigeon if im right the jonge rocket was colsely related to the famous 019 of jannsens

 

but as oy says hard to read the ped

always thought the jonge rocket was a cock bird? The words TOP Kweeker, Kweeker means breeder and Top Duiven are what the belgiums call some of there top breeders Duiven means hen so would suggest the mother of your bird was one of the breeders top breeding hens.Witpen is what you call a white flighted bird, Lt Kras is a Blue chequer or a light chequer. Jonge means young or babys jonge rocket suggests the bird was a good racer as a young bird. Birds are often named after there colour such as in your case the Blauw, meaning the Blue bar.

 

Going through the ring numbers would suggest many of the birds in the pedigree come from the province of Luik ring numbers starting with 1, and a few come from the province of Antwerp ring numbers starting with 6. And there is a couple from Brabant ring numbers starting with 2.

 

Janssen Brothers came from Arendonk, which is in the Antwerp province, so the ring number for your Jonge Rocket could never have came from them as all there ring numbers start with the number 6.

 

All the best

[Wiley]

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ok thanks for the info lads the bird i have for the ped as 2 rings on her a NL2002& GB E.R.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Well if shes an 02 pigeon that would make her father 10 years old when he bred her.Regardless of the names on the pedigree if she was bred in a top loft you'd think if a pigeon is there at 10 years old theres a reason behind it??

[Williedoo]

NL 84 1414284 is Top Kweker of Bertie Camphus

I think its 84 not B4.

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ye mate she was breed in Bertie Camphus loft

[Craig05]

always thought the jonge rocket was a cock bird? The words TOP Kweeker, Kweeker means breeder and Top Duiven are what the belgiums call some of there top breeders Duiven means hen so would suggest the mother of your bird was one of the breeders top breeding hens.Witpen is what you call a white flighted bird, Lt Kras is a Blue chequer or a light chequer. Jonge means young or babys jonge rocket suggests the bird was a good racer as a young bird. Birds are often named after there colour such as in your case the Blauw, meaning the Blue bar.

 

Going through the ring numbers would suggest many of the birds in the pedigree come from the province of Luik ring numbers starting with 1, and a few come from the province of Antwerp ring numbers starting with 6. And there is a couple from Brabant ring numbers starting with 2.

 

Janssen Brothers came from Arendonk, which is in the Antwerp province, so the ring number for your Jonge Rocket could never have came from them as all there ring numbers start with the number 6.

 

All the best

 

Wiley, spot on with your translations , only i was under the impression that Duiven means Pigeon rather than Hen.

[Wiley]

Wiley, spot on with your translations , only i was under the impression that Duiven means Pigeon rather than Hen.

I think your right craig,

[Wiley]

Craig, was speaking to a friend of mine and he suggested Duiven was a hen and Duiver was a cock

[Guest IB]

I think the Dutch words vater and moeder will help you with the bird's sexes: vater = father , moeder = mother, so the pedigree reads back sire, dam, grand sire, grand dam, greatgrandsire, great grand dam. Bit confusing when they throw in Belgian too. I think duiven means pigeons, and duif pigeon? Isn't their weekly magazine called De Duif, the pigeon?

[Craig05]

You could be right Wiley. its just that Dutch is very simelar to Afrikaans except the dutch put the letters "EN" onto the end of most of their words. a Pigeon in Afrikaans is a Duif which is why i thought thats what it was. i am able to communicate fluently with the people in NL because of my afrikaans backround but like i say i could be wrong about that one

[Wiley]

IB, all those words are Flemish, which is Belgian Dutch. So they are understandable in both Belgium and Holland.

[Craig05]

I think the Dutch words vater and moeder will help you with the bird's sexes: vater = father , moeder = mother, so the pedigree reads back sire, dam, grand sire, grand dam, greatgrandsire, great grand dam. Bit confusing when they throw in Belgian too. I think duiven means pigeons, and duif pigeon? Isn't their weekly magazine called De Duif, the pigeon?

 

there you go IB, just to show how close the two languages are, in Afrikaans "moeder" is mother and Vader is father. "Die Duif" is The Pigeon.

 

there you go, a daily class in the Afrikaans language

[Wiley]

Stamkoppel- Basic Pair

Stamduivin - Basic Hen

Stamdoffer - Basic Cock

Grootvader - Grandfather

Grootmoeder - Grandmother

Grootouders - Grandparents

Nazten - Offspring

Voorouders - Ancestors

Stamkaart -Pedigree

Afstamming - Orgin/ Pedigree

Duivin - Hen

Doffer - Cock

Jaarling - Yearling

Jonge Duif - Young Bird

Oude Duif - Old Bird

Ras - Strain

Inteelt - Inbreeding

Kruisen - Crossbreeding

Stam - Family

Verwant - Related

Kweeker - Breeder

Kweekhok - Stockloft

Nestduif - Cock or hen raced natural

Vroeg jong - early bred

Zomer jong - Summer Bred

Laat jong - Late Bred

 

 

 

^^^Just some words that Mr Ad Schaerlaeckens suggest are important words to read on Belgian and Dutch pedigrees