Guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 It definitely is not the case as most on here well know that have seen it happen on a few occasions where a mod deletes, blocks or removes a thread to suit his own views :-/ aye and calls someone a idiot, then keeps it on for a while then deletes it.
OLDYELLOW Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 It definitely is not the case as most on here well know that have seen it happen on a few occasions where a mod deletes, blocks or removes a thread to suit his own views :-/ then rather complain to the moderator in this instance use your back button and the page where removed posts or threads are you can simply copy and send to webmaster for him to view then im sure if moderators are acting improperly then they will also be question as to why they acted in the way they did , i think moderators should set an example to other members on how to behave however i have seen moderators with caplocks on perhaps richard could add something to the site which disables caps which would save the shouting in most cases as most are done accidently
superstar Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Moderating! Why is it a hard job? Crikey if it is offensive, against rules, antagonistic or disruptive then it has to go if not it stays. Stop making it sound difficult when its not! Come here for a day and I will let you see first hand difficult. Stop dreaming, it aint a full time job with crap or no pay at all it should be a pleasure not a chore, if its like that to you then your not up to playing that roll simple as that
OLDYELLOW Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Oldyellow that's slightly different to a mod being involved in a thread and then deleting the thread/post using the mod's hat? Threads arent deleted there simply taken off to clean abuse and bad behaviour foul language or to stop any arguments getting out of hand , but i agree if a mod is taking part in the thread then he has no right to moderate that thread as they would have a conflict of issues
DOVEScot Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 then rather complain to the moderator in this instance use your back button and the page where removed posts or threads are you can simply copy and send to webmaster for him to view then im sure if moderators are acting improperly then they will also be question as to why they acted in the way they did , i think moderators should set an example to other members on how to behave however i have seen moderators with caplocks on perhaps richard could add something to the site which disables caps which would save the shouting in most cases as most are done accidently Capital locks is a minor issue as far as I am concerned, whether it be a mistake or using it as SHOUTING to get your point across The main issue is if you are going to have rules then they should apply to both admin and members they should be fair and just. This is a great site but like any other part of life that is not cloned or robotic it is human interaction all be it in cyberspace. In the real world we get problems from both sides of the divided, we get friendships forming, we get cliques, we get the haves and the have not's, we get the clash in personalities, we have differences of opinions, we get the honest members, we get liars cheats and con men, we get people that can express or people that can't express how they feel in words the list is endless as in any other part of life The secret of good admin is managing all the above not controlling it and certainly not thinking you are above it just because you chose to do the job Yes admin should have the final say as I do with the things I have managed but unless you are fair and constructive you will not get the best out of what you manage, whether it be a website forum, your kids, your business, your employment or your social life :-/
DOVEScot Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Threads arent deleted there simply taken off to clean abuse and bad behaviour foul language or to stop any arguments getting out of hand , but i agree if a mod is taking part in the thread then he has no right to moderate that thread as they would have a conflict of issues That is not strictly true I have asked Richard about at least three threads/posts that were removed and he had no knowledge of them or could not find them in his folder :-/
Guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Capital locks is a minor issue as far as I am concerned, whether it be a mistake or using it as SHOUTING to get your point across The main issue is if you are going to have rules then they should apply to both admin and members they should be fair and just. This is a great site but like any other part of life that is not cloned or robotic it is human interaction all be it in cyberspace. In the real world we get problems from both sides of the divided, we get friendships forming, we get cliques, we get the haves and the have not's, we get the clash in personalities, we have differences of opinions, we get the honest members, we get liars cheats and con men, we get people that can express or people that can't express how they feel in words the list is endless as in any other part of life The secret of good admin is managing all the above not controlling it and certainly not thinking you are above it just because you chose to do the job Yes admin should have the final say as I do with the things I have managed but unless you are fair and constructive you will not get the best out of what you manage, whether it be a website forum, your kids, your business, your employment or your social life :-/ Well said and well thought out Duncan...... and very true.
just ask me Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 maybe I'm missing something i cant see a whole lot wrong really we ll cant agree on when a mod is to step in so we have to leave it up to them really what do we want a strict set of rules to follow bit of common sense goes a long way Ive agreed and disagreed when mods have steeped in and when i think they should have and they did int but sure that just my opinion simple as that i think most of the problems are caused on the for sale threads maybe if there was a form to fill out that put up on the thread with information such as performances of bird parents amount of birds in races race point or distance all the use all info so a lot of questions are answered before the thread goes up i think this would help a lot
chickadee Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 My veiw is ..... I don't really see what is wrong with a bit of light hearted banter on threads (provided it's not swearing or obscene pics) especially if the person that started that thread in the first place doesn't mind it also, I think we all enjoy a bit of banter in every day life as it helps to lighten up these dark winter evenings, ok there are some threads that are of a more serious topic that you just wouldn't banter in. But, on the whole a little light hearted fun keeps the blues on the run. ;D
Guest strapper Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 how do we tell who is a mod?....ive never thought about it
DOVEScot Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 how do we tell who is a mod?....ive never thought about it At the bottom of the home page http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/ you will see this Color Codes: Administrator, Blacklisted Member, New Fancier, Sprint Specialist, Distance Fanatic, Ring Collector, Fancy Fancier, All-round Racer, Eyesign Enthusiast, Global Moderators, Chatters Click on them to see who is what "Global Mods"
OLDYELLOW Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 how do we tell who is a mod?....ive never thought about it there the ones with doc martins and arran jackets with tartan lining listening to norther soul , yup i see what you mean ;D ;D ;D
retired Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 how do we tell who is a mod?....ive never thought about it There name is a different colour as per user group. Also if you go to the bottom of the page, and click on the moderator group it will give you a list of the Moderator team
superstar Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 You forgot the Lambrettas Glad I'm a Rocker lol
DOVEScot Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 there the ones with doc martins and arran jackets with tartan lining listening to norther soul , yup i see what you mean ;D ;D ;D You forgot the Lambrettas
ch pied Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 i don't think there is much wrong with the moderation on this site , a fair bit of latitude is given in all aspects on the site , which would not be given on other's , when you sign up , an agreement is made to stick by the rule's , if the signee find's that they are not for him or her , they have the choice to move on .
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 i don't think there is much wrong with the moderation on this site , a fair bit of latitude is given in all aspects on the site , which would not be given on other's , when you sign up , an agreement is made to stick by the rule's , if the signee find's that they are not for him or her , they have the choice to move on . I'll second that Ch Pied, they are only human and will not get it right all the time.
Guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 i dont think there is much wrong with the mods ive had my we spit out the dummy times and i know its fraustrating but you get over it and over all they do there best
frank-123 Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 the mods are doing a great job if your not happy see ya or just get on with it if the mods are giving you hard time speak with richard sure he would sort it if he could try posting on another site see what they allow then think what will basics allow i think you will find them to be very fair apart from alf
Guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 the mods are doing a great job if your not happy see ya or just get on with it The purpose of this thread is for members to give an opinion on whether mods are fair or not........... everyone has stated their opinion including you, but no need to make comments about whether people should stay or go if not happy....... that's a choice for those who are not happy to make.......... it's comments like yours that is the very reason why there are so many arguments
ChrisMaidment08 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Report Posted November 27, 2008 okay thanks boys i have read all the comments now you can read this one firstly this was posted because as most of you know i like a laugh and okay some may not like it but thats me how many of you enjoyed bens first auction with the banter and how maney without secondly how maney of you get annoyed with peaple just posting on threads to cause trouble the mods do good job but is it to much to ask to have banter or is it to much to ask firmer steps be taken on peaple getting others to post to cause conflict or to disrupt or to con us all these are resons its up not to have go at mods i personally would like rubbish stopped and banter continue
frank-123 Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 The purpose of this thread is for members to give an opinion on whether mods are fair or not........... everyone has stated their opinion including you, but no need to make comments about whether people should stay or go if not happy....... that's a choice for those who are not happy to make.......... it's comments like yours that is the very reason why there are so many arguments i was only pointing out the fact if there not happy there are other pigeon sites they may enjoy more if the moderators are so bad on here!!!! now any posts that are taken off are held in a folder for the webmaster to view whether he puts them back on will be his choice and nobody else's you might not like it but its fact i cant think off anybody on here i have fell out with maybe not agreed with there point of view as i said before the moderators are doing a fine job under difficult circumstances
retired Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 I think overall the moderators do a great job and lets face it for very little or no reward at all. Im of a different opinion to many in that i dont think they take a strong enough stance with some threads (I dont mean the banter ones) but look at the member who has been posting abusive language over the last 5 minutes he should have been gone within 10 seconds of it happening and then let Richard decide whether to have him back or not. There should be no room for any form of abusive content on a personal level or the forum as a whole - I personally think zero tolerance on these matters is the best way forward - Better to have 80 good respectable members online than 100 with 20 idiots with a bee in their bonnet.
OLDYELLOW Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 I think overall the moderators do a great job and lets face it for very little or no reward at all. Im of a different opinion to many in that i dont think they take a strong enough stance with some threads (I dont mean the banter ones) but look at the member who has been posting abusive language over the last 5 minutes he should have been gone within 10 seconds of it happening and then let Richard decide whether to have him back or not. There should be no room for any form of abusive content on a personal level or the forum as a whole - I personally think zero tolerance on these matters is the best way forward - Better to have 80 good respectable members online than 100 with 20 idiots with a bee in their bonnet. i completely agree
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