Advice Needed

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Getting drops of water through the loft roof.is it just because of frost is anyone eles getting this or if th felt nacked.Never seen this before like condensation drops all over in side roof

 

Help

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

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Getting drops of water through the loft roof.is it just because of frost is anyone eles getting this or if th felt nacked.Never seen this before like condensation drops all over in side roof

 

Help

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

 

what is the inside of loft roof?...if wood i'dve thought condesation unlikely.

[Daisymay]

Could be condensation ,frosty at night so breath from birds causing it,then defrosting during the day,JMO.

[Guest geordiejen]

probably condensation if its just drips from various parts of the loft.

[Guest IB]

I think it's likely to be condensation, slightly warmer air rising in loft coming into contact with colder roof , condenses out as water droplets.

[Guest Owen]

Droplets of water as you describe can only be from one of two things. Either a leaking roof or condensation. If it is from a leaking roof it will be fairly easy to recognise, because the leaks will happen when it is raining or snowing. Condensation can be much more of a problem because it will happen when warm air meets a cold surface. As has already been said, the birds breath can increase the problem. The first thing to decide is if your ventilation is up to standard because if there is a current of air passing over the inside of the loft roof it should carry the warm air away with it. This includes the warm breath of the birds. Wooden and insulation material will not be as prone to condensation as metal or plastic material, but just because there is little or no condensation it does not mean that the birds have good enough ventilation. I have also found that flat or pent roofs are worse than apex roofs. Old poorly fitting or hand made roof tiles are amongst the best roofing material because they allow the air to leave above the birds without causing condensation or draught. Many people make the mistake of thinking that pigeons must be kept warm like us humans but that is just not true. I accept that they should not be in a draught but they do not need warmth unless of course we are talking about widowhood cocks in late spring.

If I were you I would check to see that your ventilation is good enough and also make sure that you are not overstocked. Then after you are satisfied with the ventilation you can go on to change the roof design.

[tommy2]

Its condensation mate,and that tells you that you should have insulated the roof,not clever for your birds to be sitting there taking that punishment,not to bad winter time,but think damage your birds get high summer with heat baking down through roof all day,then chilled evening

[Guest peter4pm]

roofing felt is crap in this weather mate ..better off with time sheeting on top of felt or the felt roofing sheets

[Guest spin cycle]

roofing felt is crap in this weather mate ..better off with time sheeting on top of felt or the felt roofing sheets

 

agree with that...if the underside of the loft roof is wooden...it really has to be stuffy to get condensation. perhaps the felt has lifted in places and water has got in during the thaw and is now leaking through the joins.

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Thanks for your help guys much appreciated.

 

Have vent gap along the length of the loft 6'' floor at front, and 6'' at the top of the back of the loft.loft 12 ft x 6ft houses 18 cocks pent roof.

 

Dont think its a leaks which would be visual here and there .This is a covering (Droplets) of the whole in side of the roof (PLY BOARDS)

 

Very strange unsure what to do about it.

 

Cheers

[THE FIFER]

give the inside and outside of your roof a good coat of masonry paint,

[dal2]

Thanks for your help guys much appreciated.

 

Have vent gap along the length of the loft 6'' floor at front, and 6'' at the top of the back of the loft.loft 12 ft x 6ft houses 18 cocks pent roof.

 

Dont think its a leaks which would be visual here and there .This is a covering (Droplets) of the whole in side of the roof (PLY BOARDS)

 

Very strange unsure what to do about it.

 

Cheers

 

Do the nails pretrude thru the wood into the inside of loft? If so its condensation due to the head os the nail bein colder than the point at atracting moisture

[yeboah]

Getting drops of water through the loft roof.is it just because of frost is anyone eles getting this or if th felt nacked.Never seen this before like condensation drops all over in side roof

 

Help

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

Hello Rab ,having not seen your loft and by what you are describing most certainly your roofing felt requires changing simple as that .

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Could well be, take a closer look the morra

 

Cheers

[yeboah]

Could well be, take a closer look the morra

 

Cheers

If it is the felt ,remove it on a dry sunny day and with the help of a friend do the following if you wish

dry any damp patches on ply with light use of blowtorch

apply with trowel or piece of wood a thin coat of cold tar which can be purchased in drums

starting at say left hand side of roof apply enough from front to back the width of a roll of felt

then lay pre-cut to length strips of green mineral felt on top of tar ,very important only nail on front and rear overhang no nails whatsoever on top tar will stick this main piece

once that strip is complete do same with remaining strips allowing three inch overlap till you reach opposite end of loft this will take you a wee bit of time depending on size of loft and how many tea breaks you take but once complete will last twenty five to thirty years witnessed it myself,best of luck

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Thanks again to all

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

[THE FIFER]

hope you get it fixed ok

[geordie1234]

give the inside and outside of your roof a good coat of masonry paint,

how does this help fifer?

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

i have onduline sheets on ply.. and i have been getting bad condensation inside the ply..

 

i have a 4inch gap at the back and the loft is half open at the front..

 

any ideas..????

[THE FIFER]

how does this help fifer?

masonry paint dries quick and has no smell also fills in cracks,