Many Complaints, Bop

[Mealy Cock]

Hi All

 

Not been on for a while, I have read alot about BOP strikes all over the UK.

There is a petition that people can sign, “Face book" or http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/saveoursongbirds, however considering how many members this site has the percentage is small that have signed.

 

I am now in the process of writing to the Chief Executive of the RSPB.

If that fails then it will be the BBC and ITV to see if they will probe into the workings of the RSPB

It is clear when I have wrote to the RSPB they won't answer facts, they simply throw their dummy out and get stroppy.

 

The RSPB make a lot of money out of BOP you only have to read their own web site, so you see why they don't care about

Racing pigeons and the RSPB are quite happy to see put in jail if you protect your birds against BOP.

 

Just society we live in

[sapper756]

I got one home yesterday clearly been attacked by a BOP, back of it,s neck skinned and scratches to underneath both wingshttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif

 

LUCKY ESCAPE I THINKhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif

[rasbull]

The facebook group 'Save our songbirds' now has 699 members! I wish everyone would contribute to the site and help our cause!

Save our Songbirds Facebook Action Page

[Guest mick bowler]

Dont waste your time, while all these petitions are going on 100's and even 1000's of racing pigeons are being taken every day. Fight your own battles, and if everyone did we would have hell of a lot less of a problem and then the RSPB would want to come to the table, or try to ban pigeon racing!!

 

I lost 3 yesterday, one i didnt want to loose, the other 2 wasnt that bothered, in fact quite happy about it.

[JohnQuinn]

Agree with Mick, take a direct approach to the problem, then when those that be want to talk, we can sling them a deaf ear, and see what they think. Every fancier in the country should take steps to alleviate themselves of the problem, just think of the lives you'll save if you do.

[rasbull]

Although I agree with Mick think if the public see's the carnage themselves we are at least fighting on all fronts! It costs nothing, takes hardly any time and once the public see the devastation with their own eyes via facebook it is something that will stick in their minds for a long time!

[DOVEScot]

Dont waste your time, while all these petitions are going on 100's and even 1000's of racing pigeons are being taken every day. Fight your own battles, and if everyone did we would have hell of a lot less of a problem and then the RSPB would want to come to the table, or try to ban pigeon racing!!

 

I lost 3 yesterday, one i didnt want to loose, the other 2 wasnt that bothered, in fact quite happy about it.

 

Although I agree that everyone that can should fight their own battles but not everyone has the means or opportunity to do so, RSPB is a multi million pound business that has a PR and think tank that will see off any critics

We have loads of small forums that each do their own thing, what we need is a RPRA or SHU etc Forum that brings all fanciers together to fight one cause and funded by all fanciers through our governing bodies and a publicity stand at all major events like Blackpool

Until then we should all support http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=104750452889598

JMO

[Guest snookbri]

Dont waste your time, while all these petitions are going on 100's and even 1000's of racing pigeons are being taken every day. Fight your own battles, and if everyone did we would have hell of a lot less of a problem and then the RSPB would want to come to the table, or try to ban pigeon racing!!

 

I lost 3 yesterday, one i didnt want to loose, the other 2 wasnt that bothered, in fact quite happy about it.

 

Hardly helps our cause when statements like that are made,to say you're quite happy to lose 3 to possible BOP attacks.

[Guest chad3646]

i agree about taking it in our own hands but when people read what you are saying igot one back but i lost two but icould not care that they never come back the public will love reading this

 

 

 

 

i am sure they will have your SYMPATHY

[Roland]

Dont waste your time, while all these petitions are going on 100's and even 1000's of racing pigeons are being taken every day. Fight your own battles, and if everyone did we would have hell of a lot less of a problem and then the RSPB would want to come to the table, or try to ban pigeon racing!!

 

I lost 3 yesterday, one i didnt want to loose, the other 2 wasnt that bothered, in fact quite happy about it.

 

Good post!

Exactly 100% right is this post. Not only would one be helping ourselves, but every other concern, or concerned ones.

The sad reality is if the peoples affected via B.O.P. etc. had done as Bilco and a few others advocated in the first order the RSPB would be cap in hand coming to us and them asking for leniency in allowing a few B.O.P. to be put up with.

If we, others did as Bilco and few others suggested every seasons end then we would have clearer and cleaner skies. Via next race season most would be able to let their youngsters out in relevant safety.

three years down the line the RSPB would be cap in hand .... but it will never happen. Most spout and want anyone / everyone else to sort it ou.

Not knocking Richard at all here as he well knows. Indeed any and every effort has to be applauded. But the whisper is often louder than the shout. Time everyone got off their backside and did their' bit.

Just a couple of times a year would be a boon well noticed with great effect.

Yes around here a few seem to have kept the situation under control ... but sadly the fact is apathy will deem even their' efforts futile by the lack of action by 97% or more of those that have problems.

If one B.O.P. kills 6 birds a day... Then every B.O.P. sadly missed, would mean a starter of over 300 birds per year saved. Times that via the mate, then the youngsters…

[Guest mick bowler]

Hardly helps our cause when statements like that are made,to say you're quite happy to lose 3 to possible BOP attacks.

 

i agree about taking it in our own hands but when people read what you are saying igot one back but i lost two but icould not care that they never come back the public will love reading this

 

 

 

 

i am sure they will have your SYMPATHY

 

 

When are fanciers going to stop with the delusions that if we show the public pics of our birds being torn to bits they are all going to get behind us and help us? For gods sake it will never happen, i dont want there sympathy, that does not or never will help my birds and yes i dont mind losing 2 from the 3, why? Because it has saved losing a lot more than just them 2. If that is the only way i can help my birds then that is what i will do.

 

There comes a time when the talking stops, and for the action to start. If you all keep talking there will be nothing to take action for, the sport will be dead, it is haemorraging (sp) now, the losses of birds and fanciers is as high as it has ever been, and this is becoming the no1 reason after bereavement, and will soon overtake that.

 

As i have said before, its a case not seeing not worrying, just because the majority have never witnessed BOP attacks, they dont take it too serious, and just dimiss it as another minor problem, but it will affect you, the same as it has started to affect countless others.

[Guest mick bowler]

Picture

 

 

Don, i have some much better pics of BOP than that!! Its a shame your not a local i could of sent them to you!

[alex wight]

i agree about taking it in our own hands but when people read what you are saying igot one back but i lost two but icould not care that they never come back the public will love reading this

 

 

 

 

i am sure they will have your SYMPATHY

 

 

This comment smells off an rspb member, imo. However if you are a PIGEON FANCIER (which i very much doubt), your attitude towards the pigeon sport, and towards pigeons in general, stinks even more.

[Guest chad3646]

YOU ARE A 100 PERCENT WRONG MY FATHER AND HIS FATHER KEPT PIGEONS

 

 

WHEN IT WAS A SPORT NOT LIKE TODAY WHEN ALL USE ARE INTERESTRD

 

 

 

IS THE RED CARD YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED INTHE PIGEONS COMING AWAY WITH A STATEMENT LIKE THAT

[alex wight]

YOU ARE A 100 PERCENT WRONG MY FATHER AND HIS FATHER KEPT PIGEONS

 

 

WHEN IT WAS A SPORT NOT LIKE TODAY WHEN ALL USE ARE INTERESTRD

 

 

 

IS THE RED CARD YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED INTHE PIGEONS COMING AWAY WITH A STATEMENT LIKE THAT

 

And to say that you dont care if your pigeons come home or not, tells me that you never learned a thing from them All use? should that be, all you? or should it be all of us?????? No need to shout either, or has a nerve been hit??

[Guest mick bowler]

And to say that you dont care if your pigeons come home or not, tells me that you never learned a thing from them All use? should that be, all you? or should it be all of us?????? No need to shout either, or has a nerve been hit??

 

 

I dont think it was Chad3646 that said he didnt care if they come back or not, he was just quoting me.

 

Just to clarify what i said, if the BOP take 3 of my birds, he is going to take them regardless of if i want them or not. Now the only way i can protect my birds is have "decoys", yes its a shame if they get taken as they are still pigeons that i have bred, but they were bred for a job, and any that will remain will be looked after. But at the end of the day thats what they are in the loft for, otherwise i would never of bred them. Do i really have to spell it out any more???

[alex wight]

I dont think it was Chad3646 that said he didnt care if they come back or not, he was just quoting me.

 

Just to clarify what i said, if the BOP take 3 of my birds, he is going to take them regardless of if i want them or not. Now the only way i can protect my birds is have "decoys", yes its a shame if they get taken as they are still pigeons that i have bred, but they were bred for a job, and any that will remain will be looked after. But at the end of the day thats what they are in the loft for, otherwise i would never of bred them. Do i really have to spell it out any more???

 

 

Apologies to both of you, there appears to be crossed wires, sorry.

[Roland]

I dont think it was Chad3646 that said he didnt care if they come back or not, he was just quoting me.

 

Just to clarify what i said, if the BOP take 3 of my birds, he is going to take them regardless of if i want them or not. Now the only way i can protect my birds is have "decoys", yes its a shame if they get taken as they are still pigeons that i have bred, but they were bred for a job, and any that will remain will be looked after. But at the end of the day thats what they are in the loft for, otherwise i would never of bred them. Do i really have to spell it out any more???

 

No Mick, sad to say there is no need to spell it out any more! You can shout the reality from the church steeples and still a deaf ear will been chosen to turn to your realism.

None so deaf as those that won't hear, nor as blind as those that won't see'! I'm afraid.

Too many would rather hit out at those trying to help. Those doing their bit, those trying to curb horrendous losses to their beloved birds... They’d rather dream of Jeannie and her lamp and if only’s... but quickly have the gall to spout out against those that try.... whilst in slumber of Jeanie and ignore the reality of their birds being torn a sunder to make the RSPB hierarchy rich goes quietly by. Marvellous how they come out the woodwork to defend these Ariel killers killing their birds eh! Struth!

Indeed that is why they breed 120 y/b’s to feed them! They don’t mind them getting ripped apart and torn asunder … but heaven forbid if anyone recommends a little salt to help the B.O.P. to enjoy it’s meal. Struth they are still eaten alive!