Advice And Help Needed.

[Guest newcomer]

I need advice on racing North and South road, is it possible to race the birds in both directions North & South and to race them from one loft, if so do you need to build two separate independent teams so that both directions have their own team. Or can a bird be trained to race and fly North and South throughout the season. I would be grateful for any advice and as much detail as possible on this matter.

[OLDYELLOW]

better to have two teams however have know a friend of mine that bought ybs from kirky from a breeder buyer won both breeder buyers north and south one weeks apart with same two birds they had never been trained north or raced north ;)so if you had a team of blue bars and chequers you could send all chequers north and all blue bars south , alot of fanciers do fly in different clubs north and south sucessfully at the same time with ets it seperates the birds which ever race but getting same clock from one club to the other is another problem all the best whatever you decide

[pigeonpete]

i have known 1 or 2 people who fly both north and south with same teams of pigeons, and have done well.

[Guest newcomer]

Firstly thank you very much for replying, in your experience those flyers that are racing both roads are they using the same birds as in the case you mentioned or do you think in general that birds cannot be turned at random. I am of course realizing the birds have to be fit to do the job. Taking that aside I have had a few comments that you can only race a bird one way or another because of a Varity of things, size shape etc. I would appreciate your personal opinion, as you can tell I am trying to learn and understand so please bear with me.

[OLDYELLOW]

as said the pair of ybs bought were trained south flew full programme south then last north road race also breeder buyer just put straight in they hadnt even ben trained north and won its much harder north road with big losses especialy with the mass of birds the UNC libberate and the Scotish clubs and and the bops on top of that

[Guest newcomer]

Thank you all for answering, would you prepare your birds differently training wise and feed wise. Also would it be wiser to look for stock in the seperate directions or do you think in time I could develope a family that will do both roads.

[OLDYELLOW]

horses for courses you need to buy proven birds from both north and south flyers

[OLDYELLOW]

A "real" homing pigeon will come home from any direction.

very true but north roaders have mainly head winds to contend with and south roaders the opposite so different birds will be better at one than the other jmo also terrain comes into it

[jimmy white]

A "real" homing pigeon will come home from any direction.

 

quite true,,,,, remember the famous blind fancier jed jackson,, won the pau [south road] national with "genista" if i remember right genista flew thurso [north road] [i think it was] about a fortnight b4 winning the pau national

 

charlie wooff of new ollerton notts [wooff bros] raced the north road for many many years topping the large fed many many times

[won the midland championship club from thurso i think it was, with the great clive 76,,, ]

now an o a p racing the south road, still topping the fed with the same family of pigeons

[fred x]

I need advice on racing North and South road, is it possible to race the birds in both directions North & South and to race them from one loft, if so do you need to build two separate independent teams so that both directions have their own team. Or can a bird be trained to race and fly North and South throughout the season. I would be grateful for any advice and as much detail as possible on this matter.

 

Hi Newcomer. You would be making a lot of work for yourself, to try to fly both roads. Doing all the training on your own.

(1). If you have a partner to train one route in a separate part of the loft.

(2) I don't think you would do any good on your own if you are going to sprint race both roads!!.

(3) I think you may have more of a chance flying the longer distences.

 

People that have Won a big race turning the pigeon around But it has always over a long distence!!. I don't know of any top flier I know that fly on thier own that fly both roads!!. ( If you are thinking of going with it Have a go I hope you will prove me wrong) Good Luck Happy racing .

[peterpau]

I'm a south road man and a couple o' years back we were faced with restrictions over the water. I trained and raced south. I turned 'em all north in to Perth and took 13th sec NRCC. Restrictions were lifted and these birds then flew Tarbes the cock that came for me from Perth was then 21st sec Tarbes. Another went on to fly Palamos the next year too. If you want to turn em, no worries but for me, I wouldn't change the training. All one way.

[Guest Owen]

I overcome the problem by keeping the widowhood cocks locked up in their boxes. This makes me very flexible because I can vary the diet for each and every pigeon and I can select the birds I want to compete in whatever races I choose.

At the moment, for example, I have yearling cocks flying like demons at exercise so I feed them a light mix to avoid winding them up too much. In the same loft I have older cocks competing in races and they need a differant food, so I can accomadate all of my pigeons easily.

The added bonus is that I can see the droppings of the pigeons which allows me to gauge their health on and individual basis.