johnny11 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 Would just like peoples thoughts on the services offered in the weekly papers for droppings tests. do you think i tis value for money, if not why. what would you consider a reasonable price to pay. what about the level of any other cover ie Vets or experts in Avian pathology. Would appreciate your thoughts. John
Guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 seen one in the rp this week, only £15 seems like a good deal to me.
andrew Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 i think they are a good idea but i would only personally use them when and if we have problems touch wood we havent had any at the moment i know a few people who had used some of them they let you know whats happening and what they have found and suggest treatments but i would not nesesserily go for some of them they suggest but its up to the independant fancier
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 as geraint parry states there is one advertised in the RP for £15 its good value when you consider what you spend on cancker/cocci/and wormimg remedies when they maybe no need to treat the birds get them tested then you are sure what they need and what they dont need
jimmy white Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 we have a real good one near edinburgh "THE BUSH AGRICULTURAL ESTATE" experts in all avian deseases,, thorogh droppings tested at reasonable prices and very helpfull in all aspects of pigeon deseases etc.
Guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 Something Dr Phil Lynch said at one of our moots last year, that he always had his birds tested at the end of the season, made me think that I'd like to do that too, starting 'now'. We have a good Avian Vet practice in Falkirk, and I much prefer dealing face-to-face with people than firing things thro the post. Good chance to ask questions too, during consultations. Still to sound out the service on offer though. Would be going for fresh from every bird though, rather than ;D a crock o' sh** ;D from the floor.
jimmy white Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 if having droppings tested ,, a good idea to take droppings from differant times of the day
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 S--T IS THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY IT IS " OFFENSIVE , CALL A HALT"JW
Chatrace Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 I can still do my lab work with this But I can't do Cat Scans as he ran away
johnny11 Posted October 11, 2006 Author Report Posted October 11, 2006 i AM AFTER SOME FANCIERS COMPLETING A SHORT QUESTIONNAIRE ON THIS WOULD ANYONE BE WILLING TO HELP IF SO COULD YOU SEND ME YOUR E MAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL FORWARD IT ON. IT IS ONLY SHORT AND SHOULD NOT TAKE TOO MUCH TIME JOHN
Wiley Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 i think there a gd idea however,whenever you send one of ive spoken to alot of fanciers they will always come back with something even if its a yeast infection,so you can buy your medications,so i think best tip is mate for the long run buy urself a microscope and then you can do all the testing you wont throughout the season and although there £115 i wouldnt be without one
johnny11 Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Posted October 12, 2006 Wiley the ones I use Wiley are £2500 each and they are worth their money also John
Roland Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 Hi John, Personally I'd like to know JUST what the can and do TEST for. Many I have seen, spoke to are limited to just what het can cater for.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 Wiley the ones I use Wiley are £2500 each and they are worth their money also John AT THAT PRICE THEY WOULD HAVE TO CURE THE BIRDS AS WELL
johnny11 Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Posted October 12, 2006 Tam It was just to point out the fact that no matter how much you pay for a microscope it is worth its weight John PS Roly will give you a call tonight
Roland Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 If I owned Shegar he'd probably have been give kids rides for 50p on the seaside. Some might say that he'd lived longer and enjoyed life more. So it's the same as it's not only how good the gun is, but how well one shoots. Many 'Labs' are limited as to what they are able to test for. Indeed only must like in all walks of life have confidence in the 'Lab' one is paying. It is after al a paid exercise, and if 70% of what ailments affects birds aren't catered for, then I look a little sideways personally. As for canker, for instance, it is good to have a mild dose, as this fights and keeps away other strains that might be a spot worse. Respirationary tracts are important, and cocci etc. but lets face it most novices seem learn about them and how to cure them etc. I so see no point them being an issue. Now Samanella... yes,but are many strains and forms of.... and prevention is simple in an orderly and looked after loft. So lets go through what ailments are needed to be sent away for. I Jab three times last season for parra etc. because they needed it. Use to think that the Belgiums only done it as y/b's and it was a rip off. But seems that they should be jabbed at least twice, one at 4 weeks, another 4 weeks later or so. Then again even. Way things are going it may well be compulsory here ...
jimmy white Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 S--T IS THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY IT IS sorry tammy you will find your wrong there.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 Tam It was just to point out the fact that no matter how much you pay for a microscope it is worth its weight John PS Roly will give you a call tonight DO YOU THINK THE ONES YOU HAVE DO A BETTER JOB THAN THE ONES ADVERTISED IN THE BHW, I HAVE NEVER USED A MICROSCOPE SINCE I LEFT SCHOOL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO SO I CANNOT ARGUE ABOUT THEM IT WAS JUST THE PRICE YOU QUOTED THAT SURPRISED ME
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 sorry tammy you will find your wrong there. I WISNAE TALKING ABOUT DOOS "OFFENSIVE ,, CALL A HALT"JW
jimmy white Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 well im very sorry tammy but everyone else was, and i was, as thats what the thread was about
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 I WISNAE TALKING ABOUT DOOS "OFFENSIVE ,, CALL A HALT"JW[/quot??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
johnny11 Posted October 13, 2006 Author Report Posted October 13, 2006 Tammy They do the same job but the quality is far superior as you can adjust the light accordingly to get a clearer picture John
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR , DOES SOMEBODY GIVE YOU PICTURES OF WHAT THE ILLNESSES SHOW UP LIKE OR DOES THIS INFORMATION COME WITH THE MICROSCOPE KIT
Tony C Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 I think having droppings tested is a must, could be the make or break of your season. you can go down the treating blind road at the beginning part of the year for canker-cocci-worms but why do that if they don't need it? waste of time waste of money and could knock off what form your pigeons are holding. Saying that there are some vets out there that I would put in the quack category, use one that has been recommended to you. Jimmy W has kindly informed me of such a practise in Aberdeen, worth their weight in gold.
Roland Posted October 13, 2006 Report Posted October 13, 2006 Tony C. the truth may well be that you are bholden to their truthfulness. If there is nowt wrong why send grated... but just for a check up I figure personally a waste of time... and money. And then I will save money again if any superficial finds are found. A birds eye is the window of health. It plummage etc. a sure pointer and how it feels in the hand egard what the state is and what it needs to ne. Now they are rsting, and love just plodding about and showers / baths... their condition is that what is needed now.... Bet most time the same results are posted back ... like that 'Speeding Camera, 34 mph, or what not. So I feel you are only getting how honest the vet is. And if they can test for... then why send if all the point are rife? Most, like you know when your birds is off... and mainly why. And also the good ones are seldom off it appears.
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