T_T Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Can anyone give me the EXACT overall size of a Unikon ETS pad. I would like the length, depth and thickness please. Seems it's here. I was a "no" voter ( because of the cost and thrill of catching the pigeon ) but am not going to bury my head in the sand. I shall just cut down on pigeons kept and only breed from the very best, maybe 20 youngsters. I'm certainly not going to give up the sport but I can see a few who may. Family arguments looming. ?
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 yes but the catching part you can still do if your on open door as you can catch the bird get the etc and swip the ring in like a credit card!
THE FIFER Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Can anyone give me the EXACT overall size of a Unikon ETS pad. I would like the length, depth and thickness please. Seems it's here. I was a "no" voter ( because of the cost and thrill of catching the pigeon ) but am not going to bury my head in the sand. I shall just cut down on pigeons kept and only breed from the very best, maybe 20 youngsters. I'm certainly not going to give up the sport but I can see a few who may. Family arguments looming. ? hi T-T, just curious regarding QUOTE: i was a no voter
Guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 i think he means he was against ets, not that he actually voted for it, unless he is on the commitee?
Guest shadow Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 yes but the catching part you can still do if your on open door as you can catch the bird get the etc and swip the ring in like a credit card! I don't see the point you will be losing valuable time catching the bird which we all know is vital if you are sprint racing . which is what you are interested in, also the birds will become less trap shy through not being caught especially young birds.
T_T Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Posted March 2, 2007 Hi Fifer, Amongst many other topics on here, if you remember there was a forum vote for opinions for or against ETS. That is when I cast my "no " vote because of it's expense and the thrill of actually timing your bird in.
T_T Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Posted March 2, 2007 Shadow, Exactly that, what is the point of dashing about catching your pigeon, possibly frightening it to the extent that it won't trap again that year, when you can adapt your loft so that you could perhaps sit back watch your bird drop in and register it's time.
Guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Really amazed the Unikon website doesn't give that info! From the Racing Pigeon, 15th Oct 2004, ring sensors are described as: "flat plastic tray just over six and a half inches wide, 13 inches long & one and a half inches deep. Each sensor unit has two detection areas, each about 4 inches square and as the ring has to pass within a few inches of the detection area to record, little portals the right shape & size for a pigeon guide the bird thro & over it. The pad can also be fitted underneath a thin piece of plywood, recommended to stop the bird soiling it." But although I've a rough idea where my kit is going, I 'll wait till I get it and do 'the offer-up bit' and dummy run before I even start cutting anything.
pigeonscout Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Does anyone know if they are to make rules as to where the plate can be placed. Can they be placed under the landing board or do they have to be inside the loft? In other words under the landing board outside the loft or inside the trap?
Guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Fifer says the RPRA are looking at the SHU ETS Rules. In Scotland, ETS Rule 4 reads 'ETS must be fitted within the loft'. The pad is also sealed in place by a Club/Fed official (using the numbered clock/basket seals, the number is recorded.) So being part of the trapping system, inside the loft, seems logical place to put it.
T_T Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Posted March 2, 2007 Bruno, I, like you, have hammer and nails ready and have in my mind a picture of how I expect it to look. I need to the know the sizes because I intend to sandwich the pad in between two pieces of wood to stop the actual pad getting soiled. The two pieces of wood will be permanently fixed to a sliding door INSIDE the shed where my widowers will land and time in. I can slide the pad in and out when needed.
Tony C Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 I like you T_T given the chance would have voted against it. Now that it has been passed I can see myself having to look at buying the system, not for the advantage It'll give me but not to allow those with it to have an advantage over me. I wont be the first in my club to install it but I wont be the last either
Chatrace Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 here is a site wityh some Tips on using the Unikon. I 'll look for sizes as I use Benzing and they have several pads all not the same. http://www.cbspigeon.com/supplies/unikon/tips.html
WALLACE Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 UNIKON pad size 340mm x 170mm x 36mm deep. Best make room at sides of box for cable and connections.
Guest slugmonkey Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 I mount my pads using wooden trim pieces I belive it is called 1/4 round it is basicly a little wooden lip that I slide my pad into
pigeonscout Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Fifer says the RPRA are looking at the SHU ETS Rules. In Scotland, ETS Rule 4 reads 'ETS must be fitted within the loft'. The pad is also sealed in place by a Club/Fed official (using the numbered clock/basket seals, the number is recorded.) So being part of the trapping system, inside the loft, seems logical place to put it. What is there to stop someone connecting another plate to the system and putting it where they want. Take the lead out of the one that is sealed and connecting it to one out side the loft?
Tony C Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 UNIKON pad size 340mm x 170mm x 36mm deep. :o whats that in £'s shillings & pence
pigeonpete Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 Can anyone give me the EXACT overall size of a Unikon ETS pad. I would like the length, depth and thickness please. Seems it's here. I was a "no" voter ( because of the cost and thrill of catching the pigeon ) but am not going to bury my head in the sand. I shall just cut down on pigeons kept and only breed from the very best, maybe 20 youngsters. I'm certainly not going to give up the sport but I can see a few who may. Family arguments looming. ? hi tt, with respect, if you like catching your bird and clocking, then why not continue to do so?? its not compulsory , i for 1 cant see much of an advantage, ive seen top widowhood men time in!! and its wham bam done!! ;D
T_T Posted March 3, 2007 Author Report Posted March 3, 2007 Hi PP, I understand what you're saying but prior to ETS arriving, I thought we were all on an equal footing being down to the individual. I hate to think my pigeon has arrived and good enough to take the red card and through my clumsiness ( as was the case last year ) in dropping the rubber cost a 2yr old cock a 1st Fed and that hurt. To think of all the work I'd put in getting him right and him to put his effort in to win it. I do of course understand where you're coming from, it is down to the individual.
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