Really Mean eh!

[Roland]

"Oranges and lemons" say the bells of St. Clement's

"You owe me five farthings" say the bells of St. Martin's

"When will you pay me?" say the bells of Old Bailey

"When I grow rich" say the bells of Shoreditch

"When will that be?" say the bells of Stepney

"I do not know" say the great bells of Bow

"Here comes a candle to light you to bed

Here comes a chopper to chop off your head

Chip chop chip chop - the last man's dead."

 

The history and origins of the lyrics - sinister!

The words and lyrics have been much loved by generations of British children. The place names relate to some of the many churches of London and the tune that accompanies the lyrics emulates the sound of the ringing of the specific church bells. The words of the nursery rhyme are chanted by children as they play the game of 'Oranges and lemons' the end of which culminates in a child being caught between the joined arms of two others, emulating the act of chopping off their head! The reason for the last three lines of lyrics are easily explained. The 'Great Bells of Bow' were used to time the executions at Newgate prison, which for many years were done by means of beheading. The unfortunate victim would await execution on 'Death Row' and was informed by the warder, the night before the execution ' here comes the candle to light you to bed' of their imminent fate and to make their peace with God! The executions commenced when the bells started chiming at nine o'clock in the morning. When the bells stopped chiming then the executions would be finished until the following day!

 

Old Mother Hubbard

Went to the cupboard

To get her poor doggie a bone,

When she got there

The cupboard was bare

So the poor little doggie had none.

 

Origins of lyrics in British history

The Old Mother Hubbard referred to in these nursery rhyme words and lyrics allude to the famous Cardinal Wolsey. Cardinal Wolsey was the most important politician and churchman of the Tudor history period in 16th century England. Cardinal Wolsey proved to be a faithful servant but displeased the King, Henry VIII, by failing to arrange the King's divorce from Queen Katherine of Aragon which would enable him to marry Anne Boleyn. The King was the "doggie" and the "bone" alludes to the divorce (and not money as many believe) The cupboard relates to the Catholic Church

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Roland behave yourself

[Roland]

There there Tammy, u trying to spoil all my fun lol.

[Guest]

:o u must have missed abit roland ,no mention of pigeons   :o

[Guest TAMMY_1]

There there Tammy, u trying to spoil all my fun lol.

 

thats what it should be roland, some fun

[harky]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Di like the forum weird or not had to pick my self of the carpet after the replys from sammy,gangster and tammy always good for a laugh  ;D

[Guest]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Di like the forum weird or not had to pick my self of the carpet after the replys from sammy,gangster and tammy always good for a laugh  ;D

 

u on drugs or sumfin

[harky]

;D ;D ;D ;Dnaw just walked into an old pair of your pants could not get them of my face i am consumed by their potent smell after last night  ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

i rite *expletive removed*

[harky]

;D ;D ;Dawe come on sammy its a laugh BAWBAG ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

;D ;D ;Dawe come on sammy its a laugh BAWBAG ;D ;D ;D

 

:D :Dso your a plamff then   :D

[harky]

;D ;D ;D naw not as much as you looked like wan last night you drunken BAWBAG ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

better drunken wan than a baldy wan

[harky]

better drunken wan than a baldy wan

 

;D ;D ;D ;Dive got more hair on my big toe than you have on your BAWBAG ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

:D :Dthat y they call u the monkey then   :D

[harky]

:D :Dthat y they call u the monkey then   :D

 

;D ;D ;Di magic monkey a might be a pole but i like ma h-l-   ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Di like the forum weird or not had to pick my self of the carpet after the replys from sammy,gangster and tammy always good for a laugh  ;D

 

well im startin to charge by the hour

[harky]

HERE LETS NOT FORGET ALF  ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

HERE LETS NOT FORGET ALF  ;D ;D ;D

 

aye forget him , he wouldnae take me with him the day to the doncaster dome, right enough i see a big dome every time i look at him, this is a good night for posting about alf, he isnae coming home till the morn, monday if karen is driving, he told me the day when he phoned she was lost and that was with the sat nav working, all the roads had changed since they bought it at a boot sale five year ago

[harky]

YOU SURE IT WAS;NT A PLAYBOY HE BAUGHT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[gangster]

just what have i missed..............................