welsh...go north or not?

[Guest]

with the threat of bird flu apparently here for yrs to come ,wot are ur clubs feelings on going north again...my club members have had more then enough of smashes each year and thinking better take the option of north road racing again ..to get the distance .

our club are considering leaving the welsh north road fed  at the end of the year if they dont turn roads...paul.

[Guest waynemorris]

well i will be hoping for the same this south east route was very promising at the start but has to turned into an utter shambles.  the race programme this year was a disgrace.  lets get back to flying thurso and proper long distance races like lewrick 600mls.  we cant keep flying in this direction with bird flu as it is and the way the national is set up and run.  The combine should take a good long hard look at what they have done in the last few years and the decision makers should all be sacked and new ones appointed.  this lot could not organise a bun fight in a bakery

 

Wayne

[mark]

why cant you have a club that flys both routes,

[Roland]

All clubs should have a North and South section under the same roof, where members can send either way or both .... but coridor politics and snides blow this out the window. Yes one or two clubs do.... but most losers here have repeatedly started South Rd clubs to be 'Winners' where  you have to be a loser to be able to become a member.

Northampton SRflying club is different.... we welcome everyone, from East west or where ever inside a 30 mile ring.

[Guest]

why cant you have a club that flys both routes,

 

hi ..our fed doesnt fly both routes .

 

[Roland]

No exactlyinvincible_spirit, but it should! That is not through short sightedness either, more likely narrow minded egos I'd wager.

The sooner clubs / feds put this into operation the better .... certainly not bfore  time!

[peterpau]

Hi Roland where does your radius run to. Could I race north with you. I race south with the Warwick fed and BICC. Would love to go north.

[Guest]

No exactlyinvincible_spirit, but it should! That is not through short sightedness either, more likely narrow minded egos I'd wager.

The sooner clubs / feds put this into operation the better .... certainly not bfore  time!

 

hi roland..our fed used to fly both routes but decided a few years back to fly south east...which has proven to be successful,but now with restrictions over seas evident it will be around for a few yrs,i cant see y they dont switch back for the forseeable future ....paul.

[square_peg]

WATCHING THIS THREAD WITH GREAT INTEREST,IT LOOKS LIKELY THAT MANY FROM THE SOUTH END OF THE UK WILL GO TO THE NORTH ROUTE.AS IT STANDS AT THE MOMENT THE NORTH FANCIERS HAVE TO FLY SOUTH ROAD.

 

WHAT DO FOLK THINK ABOUT NORTH ROAD SATURDAY , SOUTH ROAD SUNDAY, THE FOLLOWING WEEK , SOUTH ROAD SATURDAY ,NORTH ROAD SUNDAY.

JUST A THOUGHT FOR THE BENIFIT OF THE BIRDS

[Guest]

WATCHING THIS THREAD WITH GREAT INTEREST,IT LOOKS LIKELY THAT MANY FROM THE SOUTH END OF THE UK WILL GO TO THE NORTH ROUTE.AS IT STANDS AT THE MOMENT THE NORTH FANCIERS HAVE TO FLY SOUTH ROAD.

 

WHAT DO FOLK THINK ABOUT NORTH ROAD SATURDAY , SOUTH ROAD SUNDAY, THE FOLLOWING WEEK , SOUTH ROAD SATURDAY ,NORTH ROAD SUNDAY.

JUST A THOUGHT FOR THE BENIFIT OF THE BIRDS

 

 

dont be  silly ...our federations wont be that inteligent.lol...it would be a lot easier on the likelihood of clashing.

but there will be the odd few that wont like it...i myself think its a good idea.if it could be worked out in a way that suits most.

[Roland]

Hi Roland where does your radius run to. Could I race north with you. I race south with the Warwick fed and BICC. Would love to go north.

 

No as you are out of the radious. We ave clubs / feds and Algamation... and believe you are lso out of that. But would love for you lot to do the same, then be a part of a combine... then EVERY week nigh we should fly club, fed, Algamation and Combine and a National. Cut costs and add merit and then of course incentives. Not just our area but the whole countries should be doing it automatically.

[mark]

a few years ago they had a nice midweek club down southampton they flew from eastbourne 98miles. its folded now it was a good training toss for birds going at the weekend. when you mention turning north  for some races its seems some people would sooner not fly at all than turn north. if a pigeon can fly across the sea why cant it fly north just my opinion.

[Roland]

Mark agree with you entirely ... But then the Wind and Sun is warmer South Rd. Also on the North MOST of the Liberation sites mare geard for the East coast boys.... which means that as soon as the Middle to longer distance races start they fly out at sea for the most  - depending on wind strength.

NRCC only ever lib in a wind with EAST in it at the very last resort .... which equates to it is A. no faourable to the East coast club. B. they'd rather have birds blown over the continent than allow the Inland boys a shout.

Like the silly NOON lib which is designed to hold the birds up at the channel .... allowing MIDDLE DISTANCE BIRDS TO POP OVER AND WIN A 'DISTANCE ' race so called that they have no right to. The next day muscles are bound to be more tired, and get moreso as the time goes on! So how can a bird flying just under 350 - 400 miles be classed a a winner then over birds that have to fly 200 miles or more next day? ! Purely to applease the influential money boys that sell feathers?

[nigel holloway]

surely the best route ,equal to everyone has been the south east,the national winners are spread out.they were very rarely spread ouy on the north,this year we have had north section winners west sec winners and east sec winners ,we never had that on the north.as for the sat lib for north and sunday lib for the south that wouldnt work. if the weather was forecast good for sat and bad for the sunday,fanciers would want to race on the sat because they have work on the monday.  personally going back north would for me be a backward move,but there again everyone has their views.

[mark]

nigel,

         backward move the furthest my father in law can fly to the south west is plymouth  about 190 which is hawk country. with flying over the sea a no go at the moment  you have to have alternatives. wheather you like it or not the north road gives you the option of a 500 mile race, thurso isnt a easy place to get a bird from but its a good test if you have not flown it before.

                                  all the best

                                      mark

[Carl Upsall]

After reading Rolands post , I have had to sit down and stop myself having a heart attack from laughing so much. His comments in relation to the NRCC are the biggest load of bo******s I have ever read....................

The country has prevailing westerly winds, if the wind is in the East the birds will be liberated, however it is far easier to call an organisation than to fly in it and attempt to be ready on the days that suit you. The fanciers at Ollerton, Selston , Peterborough still send and take good positions, however the ex members who show no aptitude for the job run away and form breakaways.

As for the birds comuing downn the sea, talk to the members from Norfolk , whose birds dog leg in to there area.

Enough said

[Roland]

Yes I think so!

[Guest waynemorris]

I think the only option for Wales is to once again turn our major attention North.  I have enjoyed flying the SE route but with bird flu and defra looking forward to a longest race of 203mls doesnt fill me with any joy at all.  This route has been fairer as far as overfly and giving  pigeons from all over wales to be high up in the result but i would give all my overfly to know for sure that i would be getting a full race programme and in my opinion a much superior young bird race program

[Roland]

After reading Rolands post , I have had to sit down and stop myself having a heart attack from laughing so much. His comments in relation to the NRCC are the biggest load of bo******s I have ever read....................

The country has prevailing westerly winds, if the wind is in the East the birds will be liberated, however it is far easier to call an organisation than to fly in it and attempt to be ready on the days that suit you. The fanciers at Ollerton, Selston , Peterborough still send and take good positions, however the ex members who show no aptitude for the job run away and form breakaways.

As for the birds comuing downn the sea, talk to the members from Norfolk , whose birds dog leg in to there area.

Enough said

 

And I make you laugh eh! the Norwich are taking the Pee out of you ...  whose birds dog leg in to there area. Get real!

Or you believe that they have such poor pigeons that they are the only pigeons in the world world that come out of the west in a west Wind! You must have fell out of a Xmas tree.... time you smelt the coffee Carl.

Yes Carl the winds are predominately with West in them, do you believe that only those in favoured locations KNOW this! Err um uer  yeee! You make me laugh. Anddog legging in a west Wind make everyone laugh, and the joke is on you mucker!

That is why a prominent comittee member of the NRCC says That we down  - unless we have to release if there is EAST i the WIND And why? 'Well' he says  We feel that it would blow them in the the Mountains / the back bone of Britain' etc. - Waht moutans? and that is why I stated that the scenario is that losing them over the water is OK THEN!Yes they have had to some times.

Peterborough Fed is far better situated as you well KNow, and In with East in the wind Ollerton etc. is pretty good.

 

Wouldn't surprise me none if you were one  of the brigade that voted that from Bedford to Lowestoft - the most eastern point in Britain - to be a fair section, then wonder why they are only seven of us left in the Northants Section. Was after all just to bolster their' coffers some more.

Golly only place iu