young bird training start?

[snowy]

young birds been roaming & flying for an hour plus now!

when should training start?

any opinions gratefully listened too.

[Chatrace]

If you have the time and fuel anytime. Is they are tripping for 20 to 30 min. go 5 miles and cut them loose

[jimmy white]

before you let them loose snowy, let them stand for 10 mins or so, and obviously watch the weather, take them hungry, and get them in right away ,when their back, best of luck,,,,j,w

[carl]

Snowy if they are doing a good hour around the doors i would say they are ready for a 5 miles toss,chose the best day you can for there first toss as you want the best conditions and note the wind direction as you dont want eastly winds for there first toss.

[REDCHEQHEN]

Have they been vaccinated yet ? They must be vaccinated before you start training.

[Guest]

Make sure they're wing stamped too

[Guest]

Dont forget though, once you start training, you need to keep the going every week. Mine are starting to roam for more than an hour now, but I will wait until I know the weather is looking better B4 I start training, then they will go 15 miles every morning and no more round the loft flying. I would say wait a few more weeks and wait till they stop roaming so far.

[Guest shadow]

I start mine off training 4 weeks before the first race from 20 miles 3 times per week and when racing starts they go to same lib point twice per week used to go more but the cost of fuel has made me cut back.

[snowy]

thanks all

[snowy]

took them 3 miles for their first, with an 05 hen,  

05 hen back first on her own, but 10 mins after they were all back, but flew for a while first,

regards

[snowy]

question??

fed birds this morning as much as they wanted, still food left in troff,

took them for their 2nd 3 mile toss & they didnt come back all together & some just sat on loft roof, & some just carried on flying round the loft?

should they be flying straight in to the loft to trap?

regards,

any opinions gratefull.

[REDCHEQHEN]

How soon  before training are you feeding the birds? You won't get them to trap if they are full of corn. There is an interesting article you should read, food for thought ?

 

http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1148810973/

[Guest]

Cant see why you fed them b4 they went training, as to motivate YBs at this time of year to trap back, they need to be hungry. Mine get fed morning and night, but are always kept on the hungry side. Next time you take them dont feed them in the morning b4 you take them. Basket them up and and put the basket in their section, then put the food trough down with some food in and let an old hen in so they can see her eating. Then watch them trap like bullets after training.   When their doing 40mile training spins then increase the feed, but at the moment 3miles wont take anything out of them.

[snowy]

Cant see why you fed them b4 they went training, as to motivate YBs at this time of year to trap back, they need to be hungry. Mine get fed morning and night, but are always kept on the hungry side. Next time you take them dont feed them in the morning b4 you take them. Basket them up and and put the basket in their section, then put the food trough down with some food in and let an old hen in so they can see her eating. Then watch them trap like bullets after training.   When their doing 40mile training spins then increase the feed, but at the moment 3miles wont take anything out of them.

 

thanks also redcheckhen.

thats the answer i wanted to hear, its just that sometimes my partner in racing (my son westy) who i love dearly, disagrees & sometimes it takes a few experienced members like yourselves to make him see that sometimes dad is right.

thanks again all,  

& westy son we will take tomorrow training (15 young ens) & if my "lucky jim" comes back first you can buy dad a pint! (lol)

[jimmy white]

before you let them loose snowy, let them stand for 10 mins or so, and obviously watch the weather, take them hungry, and get them in right away ,when their back, best of luck,,,,j,w

 

listen to dad [sometimes ;D ;D]  all the best westy ;D ;D

[Guest]

I always find it advantageous to loft fly them before I take them on a toss takes all the pee and vinegar out of them and they trap good.

[snowy]

I always find it advantageous to loft fly them before I take them on a toss takes all the pee and vinegar out of them and they trap good.

 

good idea ,

will try this one

ALSO TODAY MOVED THEIR TOSS ANOTHER 2 MILES MAKING IT 5 MILES,

FIRST 2 BACK IN 10 MINS, THEN 1 HALF HOUR LATER, THEN ALL THE REST A TOTAL OF AN HOUR? I SUPPOSE ITS NORMAL.

AT LEAST THEY ARE ALL BACK.

[bewted]

snowy,many yrs ago on yb training,i got to 50 mls a few times,next trainer about 10-00 am release,usual time,at 60 mls,bearing in mind they were baeting me home allways,,,,,so 60 mls race(me or birds),about 6-00pm,sunny weather,like today,NOTHING,,,,,,me like a bear with sore ar_e,you know the thinking,,,,,,,,all of a sudden my pigeons circle loft,i stand in front of doors shaking tin of food,,,,,,next thing,,,,pigeons hitting me all directions,smacked in heading,eyes,scratchs,look like 10 rds with cassius clay,,,,,pigeons gasping for water,to see about 50-60 ybs fighting for water is hilarious,,,,,did not want food just water,,,,,had a good year yb racing,,,,,so,pigeons do stupid things,but,have big hearts for home,,,,,ted

[snowy]

lol

cheers ted,

wont forget yr gay pied we will breed you

[bewted]

main thing snowy,watch and observe birds as often and as much as you can,little things with each birds,can make a good fancier that makes a pigeon better,,,ted

[mobster]

what is the right time of the day to toss training the ybs? is is advisable to train it only in one direction, for example. toss it on south repeatedly every training. or you toss it on south side then next on north side?

[Guest]

We try to fly our young birds as early as possible in the day, if they are hit by hawks and scatter you give them plenty of daylight to find their way home.

 

we train on line of flight which is from the East to West but we do give our birds 2 twenty mile tosses each from the North and South

[peterpau]

Many roads lead to Roam but. We aint got 'em near the basket yet, and wont do until 2 weeks before racing. Ten miles first toss on the line of flight, with the sun in the sky, then everyday at the same point, till first race then straight in to racing. I train when I finnish work 5pm ish. Once they've been racing then they go wherever my cement lorry goes. I feed twice a day ALWAYS. When they go in the evening they get there second feed, when they get home. Once they come with me to work in the morning my son feeds 'em in before he goes to school. Idealy I try to get 'em 40 /50 mls on the line of flight. You MUST give 'em a rest if they start to look tired. I like to give 'em a hard chuck then rest the next day.

[speedbird]

best results to train is take them 1/2 hour after there morning fly when all energy is used & not to be taken straight from loft without being out first!!!

 

start as early as pos before there are too many disorient ybs in the sky!!

 

let small numbers go at a time saves heavy losss as all have use there brain instead of following!!

 

when training ybs always let them get there bearings before leting go

 

at first theres no need to train them to do long training tosses dont forget they are learing therefore by training from short distances they are learning to come straight home as quick as possible & will save you time & money not having to drive miles & in resulting in heavy losses

[peterpau]

Many roads lead to roam, as stated before. If you want 'em to sprint stick to the line of flight. You will need to find a method to suit yourself. I kind of think the last post implies, that is the best way. I am lucky as I get free training, but it works. We breed a month later than most. Have few losses. Have more than eneough left at the end of the season. Fly the longest races we can get 'em into. As yearlings they go 350mls. At two 500/600mls. Older birds we've turned from Pau to Perth. I gotta tell ya I've never found better than training 10/12mls then into racing. Don't let anyone, tell you they have the best method, cos if they did we could all pack up now.