schouwman71 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 ive had louella janssens,since 1988 1 cock breeding 21x1sts 1 hen breeding 11x1sts and 2 more breeding some some very good breeders.louella surely does buy the best and if they did breed rubbish especially a lot they would have gone out of buisness a long time ago,they have people who look after the breeders so they breed 1st class youngsters,for what ive seen on there site and was a young new starter i would definatly be buying off them.Also a lot of good fanciers birds come down from birds bought from louella.
swilcox Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Good point there xtcock about numbers of winners!! I havnt sold that many since i started in 2005-2006 but have bred/supplied pigeons to win in 2007 for Richard Grayson Gary Inckley Jon De Ville Nigel Templer Dave Young - Radstock A K Heal - Radstock Harding Brothers White and Tarmass K Hicks D Flowers - South Wales A Croker - SE Herbert - Bristol Howe South Wales Tregonning South Wales Bollock C Simmons SE Mr Stone 2 x 1st last two week in there first season bred from the nestmate to the cock that was auctioned for pb last year. Charlie Simons Mark Evans - Auctioneer Rixs Shrewsbury and Sapper, Greengrass, Dries and a few others from pb!!! and most import Stuart Wilcox 5 races Race 1 1st 2nd 3rd Club Race 2 4th 5th Club Race 3 6th Club Race 4 1st 2nd 3rd 6th Club race 5 2nd 6th 7th Club in the strong Towers Club and 13 WOESR Combine cards in the top 50 against 4500-5000b, not the best record im sure but im happy and enjoying myself. This is what has been reported this year only!!! From say 400 birds sold sold, i have noticed that many who buy pigeons dont ever bother to race them which makes it harder. Kind Regards Stuart Wilcox P.S. its always nicer speaking to a name and not an alias, I wonder who you are??
swilcox Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Can i just add that 99% of the pigeon that i sell are bred or owned by Raymond Moleveld of Hilversum and i would like to say that due to his skill and breeding i can offer such top pigeons!!! My job is easy when the quality is high. One other thing, Raymond isnt just a stud, in racing the last few seasons he has won; 1st Nat St Vincent 37,023b 1st Nat Brive 7500b 1st Afd St Quentin 11,236b etc Surely the only way to mould a realiable family is with the Basket which was my first and only point!!!!
Fair Play Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 If you could buy success we mere mortals would not be in the pigeon game other than to make up the numbers. In the late 70s a local bussiness man thought he would become the M.Stoute of pigeon racing and bought a whole kit of Van Hee's (top notch then) everyone looked in awe until one old fancier asked "can they fly" .He won one race and threw in the towel the following season. In this game you can't buy success it's a combination of a lot of things all rolled into one which make a good fancier and for those that go the extra mile - well who knows.
swilcox Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 The greatest ability in pigeon racing lies with the pigeon its called "homing ability" the secound lies with the fancier and is called "Judgement" I have met many a great fancier and the very greats Fear Brothers and the like were thinkers, intelligent men who looked inside a pigeons head and understand them!! Without knowledge and hard work nothing but disapointment will be seen "" Yoda in Star Wars 1984" Even though i sell a pigeon or two you will never here me say its all about good pigeons, no the fancier has to play his part!!!!
thunderboult Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 hey wilcox what sort of prices do these belgium's sell for over here and we not talking about great grand children... hey wilcox i just noticed what you said 20 winners reported from 400 or so sent out that equals 1 in 20 you got more chance with louella's than that and they work out at about £20 each
tammy11 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Ooooh thunderboult that was 20 winners in one weekend ;D
swilcox Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 for once tammy your right there was 20 winners last weekend!!!!!! Stuart
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 for once tammy your right there was 20 winners last weekend!!!!!! Stuart am always right anyway, but if u check the post u will find it was somebody else that said there were 20 winners, definately not me as u are maybe asuming that it was
Ronnie Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Pay ya money and take chance. Thats what it boils down to at the end of the day.If ya read the adverts every pigeon you buy will win or breed winner's. Its all down to management at the end of the day .A good fancier will get bad birds to beat good birds in the hands of a bad fancier.Its when a good fancier gets a good bird that people stand up and take notice.
Guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 iam not going to say any of the big studs sell lots of rubbish but i think if any one was breeding the numbers they are and very importantly moving them on to the large numbers of diferent fanciers good/bad and indeferent then i would think a large percentage of winners would show up what better way to test your stock get other people to buy them and race them for you!
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