HELP!! WHAT`S THIS!

[Guest bristolkev]

this was not on this bird 2 day`s ago.......is this a growth or a ingrowing quill,i thought it was a ingrowing quill coz there moulting like mad and thought it might be infected.this has pushed through the skin,it about 10mm long and as wide as a twenty pence piece.the head of it is black with cualiflower like texture which has splits in which are slowly bleeding.the birds seem fine it`s eating and drinking and flying as normal. this is a youngbird.any ideas on what it is?

[Guest bristolkev]

any ideas

[chichichi]

we had a young bird with something like that on its head....we put TCP on it and it came right after 2 weeks....but if your worried take to a pigeon vet,,,,I would isolate for a week,,just to be safe...

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

try some sudocreme and isolate

[Guest]

just pull it off but make sure you get it from the root ,it should leave a big gapping hole if the root comes out woith it just leave it alone and it will heal over itself its only a protein growth quite harmless to the bird done hunners of them  

[nogin]

just pull it off but make sure you get it from the root ,it should leave a big gapping hole if the root comes out woith it just leave it alone and it will heal over itself its only a protein growth quite harmless to the bird done hunners of them  

 

HEAR HEAR SAMMY.

[Guest]

Its a fatty lipoma, known as 'a blood blister' in Scotland. Some birds can't cope with high protein / fat levels in their diet and excess fat is pushed out through the skin.

 

Leave it alone. It will burst [makes a mess] and heal all on its own and be gone just as quick as it appeared.

 

 

[nutverlal]

DO NOT PANIC

 

It is a protein pox.

 

Not dangerous to you or to the other birds.

 

The best way to slow it down is to tie a strong string around the base.

 

Stops the blood flow to it.

 

(sometimes when you tie the string and give it a good pull, fulls out, tuc the wound and leave the pigeon alone. healed within two or three days)

 

slowly starts to die and then drops off.

 

I hopw this helps.

 

 

[Guest speckled]

hey m8 it a protein spot do as addvised but weeken ya corn down would help if ya fed for a few day barley, ive had them, not nice things but  thay do fall off once ya stop the blood circulating. get that cotton round them  Speck ;D

[Guest]

Its a mistake to think of this as something 'living' with a blood supply, it's just a pod of liquid fat. There is blood when the bird's skin ruptures and there is plenty 'goo' comes pouring out through it. A tumour with a blood supply would be solid mass and need cut out surely?

 

Rod Adams at one of our moots described the cause as a high protein diet, and it was he who gave me the 'correct' name for it, fatty lipoma. But if you read up on it, its fat, so I cannot understand how too much protein makes the body get rid of one of it's fat stores - and why 'this way' ,  out thro the skin?

 

The other thing that puzzles me is if its a diet thing, why is it just an individual bird and not the whole flock that's affected? Surely that points to some sort of metabolism problem with that particular bird?

 

 

[klinkley]

I've had a couple of birds have them, not in the same time period though,  a space of years apart.  They just drop off naturally and the bird is fine.  

[matt]

it looks like a bean boil to me your birds are getting to many beans or to high protine in there food nothing to worry about i have had a few with them they just dry up and fall off whithin a couple of weeks.

[Clarkey1990]

Can ya take a pic when it heals???

[xtccock]

The other thing that puzzles me is if its a diet thing, why is it just an individual bird and not the whole flock that's affected? Surely that points to some sort of metabolism problem with that particular bird?

              

                          by bruno

    

 

    

when you race pigeons or train them why do they not all come back together

 

when one looks sick why dont they all look sick

 

when one has a sh** at 2.30 why dont they all have one

 

even though they have all been treated the same way??????????????????

 

 

  individualism perhaps?

 

selection is the route to success

[crazy pigeon boy]

yes mate it's a protine growth i have seen it before at a friends loft he just cut it off put some plain flour on it to dry it out and used tcp it was totally gone within a week

[polly]

never had it or seen it in 15 yrs. All a learning experience. I have worried that I am giving too high a protein diet.It is heavy on the liver?

[Guest bristolkev]

thanks for the reply`s, but would a small cable tie do the same job as a piece of cotton?

[harky]

thanks for the reply`s, but would a small cable tie do the same job as a piece of cotton?

 

let it fall off itself will do pigeon no harm .

[klinkley]

 

let it fall off itself will do pigeon no harm .

 

Agree, no need to tie anything around it, it will naturally drop off

[Guest]

never had it or seen it in 15 yrs. All a learning experience. I have worried that I am giving too high a protein diet.It is heavy on the liver?

 

I've only seen it twice, both in the same year. Absolutely panicked with the first bird - it had already burst and when I looked into it, could have sworn I saw a head lookin back, and outed the bird.  :'(

 

Laughing stock at the club when I told them about it; got another one a few weeks later, recognised it for what it was and let nature take its course, grew, burst & healed in a matter of days. Messy when it bursts tho.  :-/

 

The only thing I was doing that year was feeding the birds fat - oil on the grain - 3 days a week. Stopped that and have had no problem since [4 years].

 

Not a lot of info on the condition, plenty of what appears to be old wives tales tho and protein probably one of them. I would watch amount and type of fat in birds diet.  

 

 

[matt]

 

let it fall off itself will do pigeon no harm .

 

i agree to ive had loads over the years whith my fancys ive never had to remove them

[carl]

I have also had this with a few birds overs the years only 2 or 3 in 4 years,i was also told this is through to much protine.but i have always had it while the birds are moulting mostly ybs,i feed high protine most of the season but dont see these lumps untill birds are moulting..

 

 

defo something to do with the moult

[harryjacko]

like the others have said,   just tie some cotton round the base tightly and it will drop of in a few days,    nothing to worry about

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

just let nature take it's toll

[Guest WINGS 04]

if you feed peanuts at this time of year you will get them