lordcornwallis Posted June 7, 2006 Report Posted June 7, 2006 hi there how far should young birds be raced some say every race others say stop them at 1oo mile what do yous think lc
Guest shadow Posted June 7, 2006 Report Posted June 7, 2006 All mine go to the coast at Eastbourne which is 199 miles to my loft.
lordcornwallis Posted June 7, 2006 Author Report Posted June 7, 2006 thanks shadow can i ask how many you start with and how many do you finish with if i may be so bold lc
Guest shadow Posted June 7, 2006 Report Posted June 7, 2006 I start the season with 24 and usually finish with 18 depending what the races have been like and if no injuries have been sustained
peterpau Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Picauville LOL. This years young birds have NFC rings to go 240mls. No chance. If we get France back though, that's where they'll go. 206 /240mls
Guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Posted June 9, 2006 Personally I race all my young birds out to 300 miles
wayne Posted June 9, 2006 Report Posted June 9, 2006 it would depend on what system (ie darkness or natural) on how far i would fly them because come the picauville races (290mls) its september time and the naturals would be well into the moult. But theres no reason why you couldnt race them to 200mls obviously providing there fit and healthy.
jimmy white Posted June 11, 2006 Report Posted June 11, 2006 in the past ive raced a few on the darkness system, separated and let together friday these were the ones that won , they went out to 280 miles, the natural ybs were stopped at around 100 miles but well trained,,,,as yearlings and old birds i found no differance in them , but off course i had more natural birds left to race as obs
speedbird Posted June 19, 2006 Report Posted June 19, 2006 i believe in geting them to around 200mile mark providing there in good feather i may stop some cocks before this stage but realy depends how they are coming i usually send the hens to the 300mile race
peterpau Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 If I could they'd go 300mls, but longest young bird to me would be about 240mls. All my youngsters are natural, but then I do breed later than most
T_T Posted June 23, 2006 Report Posted June 23, 2006 Locally, it has been found that youngsters that complete ALL the youngbird programme have been the better old birds. Youngsters that are picked out and stopped, more often that not, falter as yearlings. A crack fancier ( no longer with us ) once told me that he works every day, then so does his pigeons.
Guest WINGS 04 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Posted June 23, 2006 I WILL BE STOPING SOME COCK THIS YEAR AFTER 3 RACES BUT MOST WILL DO ALL THE YOUNG BIRD RACES THEN I WILL SEND SOME TO THE SNFC YOUNG BIRD RACE 280 MILES
Chris Little Posted June 23, 2006 Report Posted June 23, 2006 As far as you can get em and as many as possible A well proven school of thought
slatey Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 All our ybs go to portsmouth 180mls most of the hens go to picauville 276mls some cocks also but not them that are to big. tomo how you going chris hope you flying well.
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 we race in cornish combine between 135-170 miles,for young birds,and 370-380 for old birds
DEEJAY Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Personally I race all my young birds out to 300 miles Your a person after my own heart, yes train, train, train, seperates the winners from the losers, why feed those that can't make the distance, all young birds have to prove themselves to earn their keep, for me it's better than culling birds, if they can make a 300 mile journy and i still have too many birds than a toss at 400 to seperate the cream of the crop and continued out to 500 miles, birds that continue to make it back to the loft at those distances deserve a place in the loft and possibly a breeding mate!
Wiley Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Your a person after my own heart, yes train, train, train, seperates the winners from the losers, why feed those that can't make the distance, all young birds have to prove themselves to earn their keep, for me it's better than culling birds, if they can make a 300 mile journy and i still have too many birds than a toss at 400 to seperate the cream of the crop and continued out to 500 miles, birds that continue to make it back to the loft at those distances deserve a place in the loft and possibly a breeding mate! Your a very hard worker deejay and your defaintly right. But wouldnt you think pushing a young bird 500 miles is abit to far, as i have had old birds that have won races and other prizes gone to this distance and fallen to the way side.
DEEJAY Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Well it may be hard, but it's better than killing them and it really is rare that i would have to go that far, cause hawks and weather can cull most of the flock, it's only the best of the best that you should be willing to keep! Also you never want to give anyone a bird that you wouldn't want to have yourself!
DEEJAY Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Oh by the way I strongly believe in flying in less than perfect weather which tends to thin out the flock!
Wiley Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 i agree its much nicer then culling the birds but it aint nicer on the pocket! How many young birds do you breed?
carl Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 My youngbirds flew 280 miles i started with 70 and finished with 45,all the youngbirds i timed in are still here but 1.This tells me which are the better, the ones i still have.
schouwman71 Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 dont forget ,he flies in florida,a lot different there to the british weather we get here.
pigeonscout Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Uk one loft races send them 300 + we fly 4+ 250 and 250 can be hard on them when the wind is on their nose it all depends on the weather not so much the distances usa send young birds 500 and Taiwan 700. I would never send a bird to a race to lost it if I don't think the condition is right I wont send. Any young bird should be good for 8 hours on the wing.
DEEJAY Posted January 6, 2007 Report Posted January 6, 2007 Hi been away for a while , I plan on raising 30 young birds, usually end up with less than ten, of these a few will be given to some youngsters that are interested in keeping racers, I'm not in it for the money as some, i just love the birds and want to develope my own strain of hardy birds! On a personal note if things were on the other foot my birds would have culled me out a long time ago lol! Man it sucks to get old!
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