100 reasons why

[carl]

just wondering if the forum members can give me 100 reasons why our birds fly home so fast.i will start

 

reason 1 for the love of home

[jimmy white]

reason 2   its natural inbuilt homing instinct ;D [Noah told me that ;D]

[jimmy white]

no 3          instict to breed in their own home

[jimmy white]

no 4 instictive feeding place  

[jimmy white]

no 6      instinctive place of safety

[jimmy white]

no 7,,, we have bred the speed into them ,by selective  breeding [through the years]

[jimmy white]

  one of the reasons they dont home so fast [is we pool them  ;D im sure they know that ;D ;D ;D]  [not counted in reasons ;D]

[jimmy white]

no 8 ... sex drive

[Wiley]

9    they home to feed offspring

[jimmy white]

no 10   ,,mate [love]

[jimmy white]

11    eggs

[jimmy white]

12   love of owner [confidence in owner]

[andy]

What happened to number 5? Here's one. To avoid playing tents with a black bin liner ;D ;D

[Roland]

no 7,,, we have bred the speed into them ,by selective  breeding [through the years]

 

Don't believe that one personally. Don't seem to hold water, but we  certainly have bred into them how to get lost, and that's fer sure.

[THE PRIEST]

So that they can have a good laugh at that bloke who comes to wait on them all day long no matter what the weather.  ;D ;D

[Guest Paulo]

the hawlk chases them

[jimmy white]

just wondering if the forum members can give me 100 reasons why our birds fly home so fast.i will start

 

reason 1 for the love of home

 

answered the reason ,",fast" roland,,,, :)   but didnt mention selective breeding was breeding,,, stronger constitutional birds ,,its not ,, not the way its done nowadays ,, for a 5 to 600 miler on a hard day needs a constitution like a horse ,, and theres not many like that now,, but horses for courses

missed out 5 on purpose  ;D ;D ;D [well ill say that anyway ;D ;D ]  true answer is ,,cant count ;D ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

no 13    tail wind ;D

[Tenny]

reason 14

 

I have been wondering the same since I started keeping pigeons in 1980 and  planned to find out after being asked everyday by friends and relatives "how do they know their way home?" well if you tell them the following answer and smile like you understand the whole thing the look at you amazed!

here goes....

 

Assuming one rules out faster-than-light signalling, [this result] implies that once two particles have interacted with one another they remain linked in some way, effectively parts of the same indivisible system. This property of 'nonlocality' has sweeping implications. We can think of the Universe as a vast network of interacting particles, and each linkage binds the participating particles into a single quantum system . . . .

Although in practice the complexity of the cosmos is too great for us to notice this subtle connectivity except in special experiments like those devised by Aspect, nevertheless there is a strong holistic flavour to the quantum description of the Universe.

 

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Perhaps the link between the pigeon and its home rests upon such nonlocal quantum phenomena. Perhaps it does not, but rather depends on some other kind of field or interconnection not yet recognized by physics. I simply leave this question open.

 

Another way of formulating this idea of a connection between the pigeon and its home is throughthe concepts of modern dynamics. In mathematical models of dynamical systems, systems move within a field-space toward attractors. In these terms a homing pigeon could be modeled as a body moving within a vector-field toward the attractor, representing its home or goal.

 

For the sake of simplicity, I shall take the crudest formulation of this idea, the metaphor of an invisible elastic band between the pigeon and its home. This connection gives pigeons a sense of direction, enabling them to find their way home even when they cannnot remember the outward journey, nor see landmarks, nor use a sun-compass, nor smell, nor detect the earth's magnetic field. It enables them to overcome the fiendish confusions imposed on them by experimenters, including releasing them in heavily overcast weather or at night, shifting their time sense, blocking their nostrils, confusing them with odors, fixing magnets to them, rotating and anaesthetizing them, blinding them with frosted-glass contact lenses, and cutting their nerves.

 

 

[jimmy white]

that takes us to no, 20 now ;D ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

keenness to get home       no 21 ;D

[EAGLEOWL]

motivation

[Guest]

23 fitness