Always Hungry

[Guest CS]

I am sure many of you have found the same phenomenon in your own lofts at one stage or another. Sometimes you find that 1or 2 birds always seem hungry, they run from loft to loft as you throw the feed down, wings open and running over other birds too eat.

But they never seem to get what they need or never get enough.

 

Personally I cannot recall even once where these birds performed well.

 

Have any of you noticed this?

 

[Back garden fancier]

Extreme hunger is a sign of coccidiosis. Because the guts arn't working they are always wanting food. Or could just be fat B's!

[Guest Hjaltland]

I notice the couple of late breds I carry forward most years have that behaviour, they need that extra bit of feed and it becomes more noticible when you cut back the feed.

[Guest]

Don't think its anything to do with illness, see that behaviour just now in my own birds, and wondered about it too.

 

Posted elsewhere that I'd been fooled into believing they needed more and they got it, and ended up giving too much. Think its to do with change of feed from Racing mix mostly grain to Moulting mix mostly seed, and its just not satisfying their hunger.

 

Latebreds are in with hens and see them behave as Kenny says, reckon they are playing catch-up because they didn't eat as quick as the others and it was all gone in one blink of their eye.    Other bit I've noticed is that every last bit is eaten before even 1st pigeon goes to drinker. So wondered if this was part of hens behaviour 'putting away fat' before onset of winter? They are always finished before the cocks but then again they fight more over their food.

 

  

[REDCHEQHEN]

Cocks are always finished before the hens with mine - have 2 latebreds in with the hens - hens eat a lot less than the cocks (mine)  :-/

 

[Guest j.bamling]

i found this before somtimes the corn just is not good enough or has nothing in the corn i found this with beyers mixtures last year the birds always seemed hungry a few years before it was natural corn mixes

[Guest]

Cocks are always finished before the hens with mine - have 2 latebreds in with the hens - hens eat a lot less than the cocks (mine)  :-/

 

 

Sorry, I garbled my post.  

 

I've 20 'hens', and 12 cocks. There's more food in the hens feeders, but they eat quicker, eat non-stop till its all gone, and are always finished first, even when the cocks feeders are in first..

[chickadee]

 

 

Sorry, I garbled my post.  

 

I've 20 'hens', and 12 cocks. There's more food in the hens feeders, but they eat quicker, eat non-stop till its all gone, and are always finished first, even when the cocks feeders are in first..

 

Are they trying to lay on a bit more fat getting ready for the breeding season again?

[pault]

hi

i have never found birds that are always hungery do any good so do your self a favour and dispose of them

just my opinion  

[Wiley]

hi

i have never found birds that are always hungery do any good so do your self a favour and dispose of them

just my opinion  

 

Wouldnt agree with that personally, One of my best ever sprinters is called Greedy Guts in the stock loft now, he was always hungry, never kept this pigeons on rations he always got what he wanted everyday untill he started to leave grains and even then he would still be looking for something extra, even though he had left grains in his galley pot, and he had 5 wins, 2 federation wins and missed bird of the year in federation by 7 points, this pigeon is still in my stock shed and is the father of my loft, breeds winners every year. Could he be an exception to the rule! Very harsh to say dispose of these birds with these traits, as there are good and bad in everything!

[PigeonClarke]

I always compare pigeons with humans if theres something I don't understand so I came to the conclusion that some humans seem to be always hungrier than others so the same must apply with pigeons?

[Guest]

I am sure many of you have found the same phenomenon in your own lofts at one stage or another. Sometimes you find that 1or 2 birds always seem hungry, they run from loft to loft as you throw the feed down, wings open and running over other birds too eat.

But they never seem to get what they need or never get enough.

 

Personally I cannot recall even once where these birds performed well.

 

Have any of you noticed this?

well your experience has told you they never perform any good so what are yi still keeping them for  

 

[pault]

 

Wouldnt agree with that personally, One of my best ever sprinters is called Greedy Guts in the stock loft now, he was always hungry, never kept this pigeons on rations he always got what he wanted everyday untill he started to leave grains and even then he would still be looking for something extra, even though he had left grains in his galley pot, and he had 5 wins, 2 federation wins and missed bird of the year in federation by 7 points, this pigeon is still in my stock shed and is the father of my loft, breeds winners every year. Could he be an exception to the rule! Very harsh to say dispose of these birds with these traits, as there are good and bad in everything!

 

hi willey

you are telling me that greedy guts would go around the loft with its wings in the air acting as if he was starving.if 1 or 2 birds are doing what cs birds where doing and none of the others then they are lacking something

so i still say get rid

 

 

 

[Wiley]

 

hi willey

you are telling me that greedy guts would go around the loft with its wings in the air acting as if he was starving.if 1 or 2 birds are doing what cs birds where doing and none of the others then they are lacking something

so i still say get rid

 

 

 

Hi Paul

sorry i didnt read the post intirely properly sorry, you are right greedy guts never did run around the loft with its wings in the air.  Craig be interesting to find out what measurement you feed your birds, as like paul says they are lacking something in your loft. Once again paul sorry didnt read the post entirely properly

 

 

[pault]

hi wiley

no probs i thought that was the case

[EAGLEOWL]

I am sure many of you have found the same phenomenon in your own lofts at one stage or another. Sometimes you find that 1or 2 birds always seem hungry, they run from loft to loft as you throw the feed down, wings open and running over other birds too eat.

But they never seem to get what they need or never get enough.

 

Personally I cannot recall even once where these birds performed well.

 

Have any of you noticed this?

 

 

sadly ive seen this in many lofts pigeons that look like there starving. young birds wanting feeding from anything that moves but seem reluctant to eat for themselfs

i would dispose of any bird in my loft like that. i think any bird constantly squeeking is showing signs of something missing.

 

cull hard and the best times in the nest. this tells you if there missing something or there not growing right .

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

sadly ive seen this in many lofts pigeons that look like there starving. young birds wanting feeding from anything that moves but seem reluctant to eat for themselfs

i would dispose of any bird in my loft like that. i think any bird constantly squeeking is showing signs of something missing.

 

cull hard and the best times in the nest. this tells you if there missing something or there not growing right .

 

 

Looks like you should be culled for constanly squeeking and having something missing, you definately dinnae look starving anyway just a greedy squeeker;D ;D ;D

 

 

[EAGLEOWL]

pmsl  ;D ;D

[chickadee]

Aye and you and Tammy are next.

[Guest]

 

sadly ive seen this in many lofts pigeons that look like there starving. young birds wanting feeding from anything that moves but seem reluctant to eat for themselfs

i would dispose of any bird in my loft like that. i think any bird constantly squeeking is showing signs of something missing.

 

cull hard and the best times in the nest. this tells you if there missing something or there not growing right .

 

 

It's fanciers that cull hard that never learn anything!.You need to actually find out the reason why certain birds behave like this or you will just breed more the same if there is an underlying disease or fault in management.Alot of birds mature and come into their own as 2,3 or even 4 year olds so if you cull them now you'll never know.

[Guest]

 

Are they trying to lay on a bit more fat getting ready for the breeding season again?

 

Thats what I was wondering: is what I'm seeing just a natural 'hen' response to time of year?

 

Or is it down to change of feed and less of it?

[DOVEScot]

 

Thats what I was wondering: is what I'm seeing just a natural 'hen' response to time of year?

 

Or is it down to change of feed and less of it?

 

Maybe they naturally crave food for fat stocks to keep them through the winter months, Interesting to hear from fanciers in warmer climes, like Kent or Arizona ;D

[EAGLEOWL]

 

It's fanciers that cull hard that never learn anything!.You need to actually find out the reason why certain birds behave like this or you will just breed more the same if there is an underlying disease or fault in management.Alot of birds mature and come into their own as 2,3 or even 4 year olds so if you cull them now you'll never know.

 

if theres something wrong put them in the bin ,i dont race a pigeon after two years old if its a good one its in the stock loft if not its in the bin ,i would never keep a pigeon three or four years to show it had potential good birds breed good birds bad birds breed bad birds sick birds breed sick birds i have worked on that basis ,i know you can always get a exception to the rule but each to their own , i find alot of pigeon fanciers cannot cull a pigeon but it costs the same to feed a good one as a bad one .

 

[Guest]

 

if theres something wrong put them in the bin ,i dont race a pigeon after two years old if its a good one its in the stock loft if not its in the bin ,i would never keep a pigeon three or four years to show it had potential good birds breed good birds bad birds breed bad birds sick birds breed sick birds i have worked on that basis ,i know you can always get a exception to the rule but each to their own , i find alot of pigeon fanciers cannot cull a pigeon but it costs the same to feed a good one as a bad one .

 

Yes let's just agree to disagree but if you have good loft management skills and breed selectively you shouldn't need to cull.

[EAGLEOWL]

 

Yes let's just agree to disagree but if you have good loft management skills and breed selectively you shouldn't need to cull.

 

good management and selective breeding will always have need to cull .