BARLEY

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Whats your opinion on using a lot of barley in feeding ?

[majorpet]

tammy for info on barley contact ROUND O bhw scribe- send him a cheque

for one pound MADE OUT TO NINEWELLS HOSPITAL DUNDEE and include a stamped adressed envelope-he will send you a booklet all about barley and when and how to use it-he has a column in bhw every week. a quid very well spent!

majorpet

[tskyes]

I DONT NO HOW TRUE IT IS BUT I WAS TOLD THAT FEEDING TOO MUCH BARLEY DURING THE MOULT CAN MAKE THE FEATHERS BRITTLE

[Roland]

Good for the distance, and great as a blood purifyer... careful not to over do as I aften warn. If they get fat on barley you have a hard timr getting them back in shape.

[shalis lofts]

just started feeding beans and maple peas with some barley is this alright for my birds in winter should i feed set amount <1 ounce > or is it ok to feed as much as they can eat  can anyone help yours in sport shalis lofts (distance fanatic)  :

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

feeding ma racers high protene just now and once the feed bin is empty i will go onto a 75% moulting mix 25% barly gradualy increasing the barly mix for the first time

[shalis lofts]

you wouldn't recomend feeding this all winter then or would you i suppose they will get to fat on high protein will they greig the doo :

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Good for the distance, and great as a blood purifyer... careful not to over do as I aften warn. If they get fat on barley you have a hard timr getting them back in shape.

 

give us your take on barley then roland, especially your bit about it being good for the distance, was under the impression barley kept them lean over the winter , well along with other food , not barley alone

[Guest Paulo]

Raw Barley

Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)

Energy 350 kcal   1470 kJ

Carbohydrates     77.7 g

- Sugars  0.8 g

- Dietary fiber  15.6 g  

Fat 1.2 g

Protein 9.9 g

Thiamin (Vit. B1)  0.2 mg   15%

Riboflavin (Vit. B2)  0.1 mg   7%

Niacin (Vit. B3)  4.6 mg   31%

Pantothenic acid (B5)  0.3 mg  6%

Vitamin B6  0.3 mg 23%

Folate (Vit. B9)  23 μg  6%

Vitamin C  0.0 mg 0%

Calcium  29.0 mg 3%

Iron  2.5 mg 20%

Magnesium  79.0 mg 21%  

Phosphorus  221 mg 32%

Potassium  280 mg   6%

Zinc  2.1 mg 21%

 

Breakdown for barley as you can see it is high in carbs and low in protein

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

you wouldn't recomend feeding this all winter then or would you i suppose they will get to fat on high protein will they greig the doo :

 

no i have a bout 7 days worth left then I will do 75% 25% as I said on the previous post

[Roland]

 

give us your take on barley then roland, especially your bit about it being good for the distance, was under the impression barley kept them lean over the winter , well along with other food , not barley alone

 

Yes wheat and barley used to be the thing, and still is. Main reason back then was two fold, lean and mean and a all the farmers has a few sacks about - tax free etc. - was very cost effective.

  Never saw a fat runner win a marthon yet, and the carbs are right, the blood in god shape.

Two things are needed for a bird - like us - to do well and be fit! Clean, clear blod to cart the oxygen etc. around te system. Clear pipes for both air and blood.

So a little after a race is cool too.

Barley is a natural Blood purifier.

During the racing season, one of the best sugars to use is fructose which along with glucose, is found in honey. You can also buy it pure in a health food store. There is a high biological priority to convert fructose to fat for the upcoming race. So the use of honey or pure fructose for one or two days maximum ahead of shipping day can help to fuel the system for the race. The only thing I'd give on shipping day is clear water or water + probiotic* (to insure that a good level of friendly bacteria is in place to block out any bad organisms picked up during shipment.)

* Not so sure that they are any good in reality now, indeed I feel they may well do more harm than good over a perod of time, so have just about knocked them on the head.

Use after a treatment? ! Well yes, BUT only as long as I feel it isn't bolstering the bird(s) up. I much perfer after any illness cured the bird(s) to show just what their cnstitution is made up like. A good constitution in birds is of the utmost importance to any successful loft in my oppion.

 

[Roland]

So with barley different things / add ons, at different times.

[jimmy white]

 

Yes wheat and barley used to be the thing, and still is. Main reason back then was two fold, lean and mean and a all the farmers has a few sacks about - tax free etc. - was very cost effective.

  Never saw a fat runner win a marthon yet, and the carbs are right, the blood in god shape.

Two things are needed for a bird - like us - to do well and be fit! Clean, clear blod to cart the oxygen etc. around te system. Clear pipes for both air and blood.

So a little after a race is cool too.

Barley is a natural Blood purifier.

During the racing season, one of the best sugars to use is fructose which along with glucose, is found in honey. You can also buy it pure in a health food store. There is a high biological priority to convert fructose to fat for the upcoming race. So the use of honey or pure fructose for one or two days maximum ahead of shipping day can help to fuel the system for the race. The only thing I'd give on shipping day is clear water or water + probiotic* (to insure that a good level of friendly bacteria is in place to block out any bad organisms picked up during shipment.)

* Not so sure that they are any good in reality now, indeed I feel they may well do more harm than good over a perod of time, so have just about knocked them on the head.

Use after a treatment? ! Well yes, BUT only as long as I feel it isn't bolstering the bird(s) up. I much perfer after any illness cured the bird(s) to show just what their cnstitution is made up like. A good constitution in birds is of the utmost importance to any successful loft in my oppion.

 

theres a lot in what roland said ,, but i wouldnt give the barley until the finish of the moult . untill the last flight is completely grown , i find it a great weight watcher   especialy after the moult when , birds maybe not getting out, shorter days ,,the birds will be sitting on their perches [going to say a,, s  ;D] from darkness 3 30 pm until lightness at approx 9 am ,, to fill their crops with a heavy mix at this time would simply make them too fat , only excercise would be to fly to floor to feed then up to perch to roost , this would produce unhealthy birds , so to me, barley has its uses  

[Roland]

Yes I'd agree with the 'Moult part', I like a little linseed before feeding, and about 20% protein in their feed. Also a wide variety with plenty of little seeds.

My birds are flying non stop now, and are in moult of course, but I like that as I feel it pumps the heart and circulates everything, and that to me, has to be good.

[Guest]

Got a row at the beginning of the week for my birds being too heavy. Had been feeding moulting mix for 3 weeks by 'the shovelful' as birds didn't seem satisfied with usual amount, especially the hens, result = stappit crops.

 

So have reduced it back to basically a heaped tablespoon for a cock and level tablespoon for a hen.

 

Would like to add a daily handful of barley. Can I feed 'dried pearl barley'  sold in supermarkets in 500gm packets for soup?

 

Also to keep protein content level, thought about a daily handful of rice too. Similar  question, what kind of rice for pigeons? Local supermarket does 'long grained rice' which appears to be much the same as the stuff found in some seed mixtures.

 

Is it OK to feed these?

[Guest]

Can I feed 'dried pearl barley'  sold in supermarkets in 500gm packets for soup?

 

i gave it to the y/birds they loved it, but the mrs was'nae very happy when she went to make the soup. :-/

[Guest shadow]

best barley to feed if you can get some is malting barley used to feed 50/50/beans and barley until 2 weeks before pairing up never had any problems with the hens laying on time etc.

[Mark Bulled]

Ive always been a big fan of barley. Mainly as a regulater and also fed up to 50% to keep the weight down after the moult.

 

However after reading Chris Gordon's article after he won the Tarbes National at 700+ miles.

 

He feeds 100% Barley through the moult right up the chipping of the egg.

 

I havent the bottle to try this but it would seem that feeding Barley only certainly wont hurt!

[Guest MBpigeonguy]

i feed all my birds barly right now, but there is a 60% that there will always be only barly left after eating i dont know why!!

[Guest shadow]

the birds will leave the barley if they overfed

[DOVEScot]

Does anyone know if it ok to feed show birds solely on barley?

[swilcox]

My birds have been on 50 % Barley for a while and they look unbelievable, super condition, super feather and more important not over weight.

 

People often over feed during the moult, a pigeon has no reason to be fat whatever the time of year.

 

Stuart

[DOVEScot]

My birds have been on 50 % Barley for a while and they look unbelievable, super condition, super feather and more important not over weight.

 

People often over feed during the moult, a pigeon has no reason to be fat whatever the time of year.

 

Stuart

 

What is the other 50%?

[swilcox]

A widowhood mix tha i mix myself

 

two Parts maize, two parts peas, One part wheat, one part conditioner.

 

They have this all year round until the first channel race then 3 parts maize etc until Nantes when they move two 4 parts maize.

 

The Maize content for racing is always made up of 3 different type of maizes.

 

Stuart

[DOVEScot]

A widowhood mix tha i mix myself

 

two Parts maize, two parts peas, One part wheat, one part conditioner.

 

They have this all year round until the first channel race then 3 parts maize etc until Nantes when they move two 4 parts maize.

 

The Maize content for racing is always made up of 3 different type of maizes.

 

Stuart

 

Cheers Stuart