Moulting

[Tic eye Hen]

Hiya you guys,

 

Can anyone tell me the reason why pigeons bred at the same time, in the same conditions, trained and raced the same way-moult at different times?

 

for example:-

 

why, the odd one or two take at least three wks to a month extra to complete their moult?

 

I would welcome your opinions....

 

 

[Tony C]

Allowing pigeons to sit a nest and rear y/birds will delay the moult.

[Tic eye Hen]

Thanks Tony I like your seagull pic!!

 

Young and old hens and cocks are all seperated at end of season.

 

I thought the reason could be the fitter and more relaxed they are the longer they take (no fret marks) - esp.old birds??

[Tony C]

Thanks Tony I like your seagull pic!!

 

 

Thanks Just got to train it now to pay a visit to the jewellers ;D ;D

 

You will also find that the rate they moult at is inherent, some families do moult quicker than others. Another reason could be down to the pigeons individual metabolism. I guess there is many more reasons, be good to hear others views.

 

 

[Wiley]

 

Thanks Just got to train it now to pay a visit to the jewellers ;D ;D

 

You will also find that the rate they moult at is inherent, some families do moult quicker than others. Another reason could be down to the pigeons individual metabolism. I guess there is many more reasons, be good to hear others views.

 

 

got to agree mate iv'e found this with my old family of lefebre dhaenens they moult alot slower then some of the newer strains i have, i think you are right its all to do with the gentic make up.

[chickadee]

Well I've found that all our birds in the main lofts have went through their moult, at much the same time, with just a few straglers and now its the young birds turn in the young bird section, and yes they don't moult until they've finished sitting and feeding their young.

[DOVEScot]

Last year and the year before we had hardly any birds moulting, this year they were falling to bits, never seen so much feathers.

Could it be something we are all feeding them, treating them with or the bad weather that caused such a heavy moult this year???

[me]

Last year and the year before we had hardly any birds moulting, this year they were falling to bits, never seen so much feathers.

Could it be something we are all feeding them, treating them with or the bad weather that caused such a heavy moult this year???

 

 

Not being funny but are we still talking about doos here???

 

[sammy]

 

 

Not being funny but are we still talking about doos here???

 

yir at the kiddin ME  ;D ;D ;D

[chickadee]

 

 

Not being funny but are we still talking about doos here???

 

Yes???? What did you think we were talking about? :-/

[chickadee]

 

yir at the kiddin ME  ;D ;D ;D

 

I think he is Sammy. ;D

[me]

 

yir at the kiddin ME  ;D ;D ;D

 

Well Sammy lad how many doos have you bred at the normal time of year,never mind old birds that have not moulted and thrown feathers all over the place? Of course the lad may have been unlucky and his birds were so ill they could'nt complete a moult but its pretty unlikely is it not?

 

[chickadee]

 

Well Sammy lad how many doos have you bred at the normal time of year,never mind old birds that have not moulted and thrown feathers all over the place? Of course the lad may have been unlucky and his birds were so ill they could'nt complete a moult but its pretty unlikely is it not?

 

???????????? I'm  confused? maybe you could interprit Sammy? :-/

[sammy]

 

???????????? I'm  confused? maybe you could interprit Sammy? :-/

 

            NAW

[DOVEScot]

 

Well Sammy lad how many doos have you bred at the normal time of year,never mind old birds that have not moulted and thrown feathers all over the place? Of course the lad may have been unlucky and his birds were so ill they could'nt complete a moult but its pretty unlikely is it not?

 

So what you are saying a bird has to be healthy to moult and throw feathers all over the place, maybe it is the other way about.

These are two of the birds that never moulted the last two years :-/

[me]

 

So what you are saying a bird has to be healthy to moult and throw feathers all over the place, maybe it is the other way about.

These are two of the birds that never moulted the last two years :-/

 

Yep thats exactly what I was saying normal healthy doos will moult to time as determined by the family genes saying that I was talking about "doos" what are they things in the pictures Dovescot lad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DOVEScot]

 

Yep thats exactly what I was saying normal healthy doos will moult to time as determined by the family genes saying that I was talking about "doos" what are they things in the pictures Dovescot lad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Budgies

[me]

 

Budgies

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[matt]

Hiya you guys,

 

Can anyone tell me the reason why pigeons bred at the same time, in the same conditions, trained and raced the same way-moult at different times?

 

for example:-

 

why, the odd one or two take at least three wks to a month extra to complete their moult?

 

I would welcome your opinions....

sometimes hens or cocks may pair to eachother when split therefor will delay the moult while active with eachother im having this problem with two hens ive just bought there is loads of diferent things going on with each individual pigeon thats why they moult at diferent times cutting the feed down helps make them less active

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

What do you think they are?

[me]

 

What do you think they are?

 

I'll explain this once more for folks that don't "me" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is my way of showing humour and appreciation. All the best Dovescot with your fancy pigeons it takes all kinds to make the doo world!

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

I'll explain this once more for folks that don't "me" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is my way of showing humour and appreciation. All the best Dovescot with your fancy pigeons it takes all kinds to make the doo world!

 

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jimmy white]

Hiya you guys,

 

Can anyone tell me the reason why pigeons bred at the same time, in the same conditions, trained and raced the same way-moult at different times?

 

for example:-

 

why, the odd one or two take at least three wks to a month extra to complete their moult?

 

I would welcome your opinions....

 

 

there are some" breeds" of racing pigeons that moult slower than others , but sometimes [if its ybs your on about ] youll get the odd one have a harder race or a more difficult time of it than others , this will" steg" the moult slightly, also if a yb has been off colour for some reason or another , this will also "steg" the moult, a bit.. there can be many reasons for this completion of the moult, i,e darkness system , yb,s breeding themselves etc ,,,,,,in ob,s they normaly cast their first flight after sitting about 12 days on their second round of eggs, then after theve cast about 5 flights will start a body moult i,e the reason that many national natural fliers mate their birds up a lot later than the sprint type ,as the sprint races are earlier in the year and the distance races later in the year ,, the reason w hood fliers only let their birds sit 8 to 10 days on second round , is to hold that first flight , this is one of the reasons that the w, hood fanciers can mate earlier , also light can induce the moult, dark can retard it , baths also can induce the moult to a certain extent and heating seeds i,e hemp induce the moult , just recently ive been advised to use buttermilk to induce the moult in, late [change of loft] darkness yb,s this seems to be working ,,,,but whatever system , pigeons must have a perfect moult if their to win the following year this is all very breifly, but hope it helps

 

[DOVEScot]

 

there are some" breeds" of racing pigeons that moult slower than others , but sometimes [if its ybs your on about ] youll get the odd one have a harder race or a more difficult time of it than others , this will" steg" the moult slightly, also if a yb has been off colour for some reason or another , this will also "steg" the moult, a bit.. there can be many reasons for this completion of the moult, i,e darkness system , yb,s breeding themselves etc ,,,,,,in ob,s they normaly cast their first flight after sitting about 12 days on their second round of eggs, then after theve cast about 5 flights will start a body moult i,e the reason that many national natural fliers mate their birds up a lot later than the sprint type ,as the sprint races are earlier in the year and the distance races later in the year ,, the reason w hood fliers only let their birds sit 8 to 10 days on second round , is to hold that first flight , this is one of the reasons that the w, hood fanciers can mate earlier , also light can induce the moult, dark can retard it , baths also can induce the moult to a certain extent and heating seeds i,e hemp induce the moult , just recently ive been advised to use buttermilk to induce the moult in, late [change of loft] darkness yb,s this seems to be working ,,,,but whatever system , pigeons must have a perfect moult if their to win the following year this is all very breifly, but hope it helps

 

So mabe ours birds don't moult because they are more natural that the ones that are controlled by different means to suit racing programmes

Yet saying that the ones in the cotes which are the most natural year in year out, they moulted excessively this year compaired to the last two years

[Wiley]

 

So mabe ours birds don't moult because they are more natural that the ones that are controlled by different means to suit racing programmes

Yet saying that the ones in the cotes which are the most natural year in year out, they moulted excessively this year compaired to the last two years

 

The Dockies around here always moult :-/