frank-123 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 is there no thread's about pigeons on this site everybody just seems to be selling pigeons 1 i would not buy off of anyone who never used there real name for a start 2 what club and fed do you fly in? 3 what price are the pigeon's (not make me an offer) 4what results have you had (birdage,distance) 5 any other fancier back your claims 6 how much will you give to this website when you make a sale thats some of the questions i would have if i was buying anybody agree
pigeonpete Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 yes agree bart, but if you notice i have always give my birds away for free as my results dont warrant recieving money for them yet!! there is alot of crap for sale on here!! but its up to the buyer to be aware if they want to buy them then thats there choice :-/
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 is there no thread's about pigeons on this site everybody just seems to be selling pigeons This Site is now loosely divided between meaningless posts and even more meaningless posts. Pigeon topics? What are they? :-/
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 I agree too. Particularly about who the seller is!
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 i aggree totaly bart ive said for years if you were selling a car you would need a mot or you get nothing for it but we just take for granted that every thing we are told about doos for sale we just have to believe that will be right!
EAGLEOWL Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 you hit the nail on the head there bart. put a good picture fancy pedigree sell it as a champion ,people will buy it, i want to know all about the pigeonman never mind the bird ,does he suffer young bird sickness for start ,hows he race them does he win consistantly with old birds does he fly his young birds to the tin ,how many birds he keep how many he races each week whats his losses a season how many birds in club it goes on thats before i handle the birds ,or i would part with cash,. thats the trouble people buy anything and put it in their loft ,only this season i seen someone buy their son a dozen pigeons from a stud it cost him his young bird season full of canker respirtory problems three had died in first week in the end sadly the lot in the bin inside four weeks he couldnt get them right even after having the vet round to treat them.and i wouldnt buy a pigeon from a loft thats never cleaned out ,i know people use deep litter ,but there a difference between deep little and a loft full of crap. another thing what price a pigeon ,some of the prices i see in adverts for pigeons is unreal ,utter rubbish for big money . if you want to get to the top go to a top pigeonman ,not a carboot if hes a genuine guy he will give you them for free not try make a quick buck. i never sold a pigeon in my life
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 original writings what are they ? ;D Your next one that doesn't contain a so called funny or snide remark.
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 you hit the nail on the head there bart. put a good picture fancy pedigree sell it as a champion ,people will buy it, i want to know all about the pigeonman never mind the bird ,does he suffer young bird sickness for start ,hows he race them does he win consistantly with old birds does he fly his young birds to the tin ,how many birds he keep how many he races each week whats his losses a season how many birds in club it goes on thats before i handle the birds ,or i would part with cash,. thats the trouble people buy anything and put it in their loft ,only this season i seen someone buy their son a dozen pigeons from a stud it cost him his young bird season full of canker respirtory problems three had died in first week in the end sadly the lot in the bin inside four weeks he couldnt get them right even after having the vet round to treat them.and i wouldnt buy a pigeon from a loft thats never cleaned out ,i know people use deep litter ,but there a difference between deep little and a loft full of crap. another thing what price a pigeon ,some of the prices i see in adverts for pigeons is unreal ,utter rubbish for big money . if you want to get to the top go to a top pigeonman ,not a carboot if hes a genuine guy he will give you them for free not try make a quick buck. i never sold a pigeon in my life hi a few things mentioned in ur posting..u mentioned about y/b sickness?..i think a lot of top flyers suffer this and win top races..i dont see wot it has to do with buying birds.? and u say that if the flyer is genuine he will give u pigeons...im afraid thats just a fantasy we all would like,there are many top flyers who sell pigeons and are genuine,and many that are not. also canker wont stop ur y/bird season..properly treated it shouldnt keep u out for more then two weeks. and who wouldnt treat any new arrivals ...ud have to be very foolish not to treat them 1st before letting them into ur own birds...and i know ..when i 1st started i found out because i introduced sick birds into mine being foolish...i learnt by that. but i can see where ur coming from though...some have many birds for sale ...and dont have the amount of stock birds or time to breed that many...paul
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 you are going way off topic here bruno, for the second time on the thread Wrong. The thread asked 'is there no topics on here about pigeons'. Strange that only Selling has been picked on after one or two have had a beef about it and opened up other sham threads of their own which were removed. It is not just 'selling' that is spoiling the Site it is all the other non-pigeon related kerrap that myself and the other moderators have to clean up daily, and get criticised when we do, and criticised again when we don't..
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 Eagle Owl, surely you run a risk when you bring new stock into your loft, no matter how good the source? Judging from another thread, even the very best have had a problem in their loft at some time? Bought or Gifted - need to spend quarantine time in the new loft surely.
swilcox Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 To me all sellers should provide there full name and as much info as possible. Stuart
EAGLEOWL Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 PAUL i was asked two years ago by a young nine year old kid to sell him a pigeon off one of my best pigeons for a fiver all his savings who wanted to join the pigeon club by fellow fanciers ,seemed to be funny by some members. i gave him loan of my stock birds and my w-hood cocks 12 pairs in total for free ,this year alone he has won four first prizes in the club plus other prizes with old birds there not laughting now only lost two birds out of ten w-hood cocks and for free. yes the other lad was foolish but does not really know anything about pigeons ,but was very sad seeing him crying because his birds where dead,i know now he will never make that mistake again. yes you get good fanciers who sell pigeons who want a return on all their dedication time effort but im afraid theres far too many fanciers selling utter rubbish and the people who buy them buy them to make their birds better .sadly it only keeps them back as for sick birds survival for the healthy ones sick pigeons breed sick pigeons bad pigeons breed bad pigeons good pigeons breed good pigeons thats the way i was always brought up on pigeons. pigeons are easy to breed they cost nothing of terms of breeding them ,but far to many people see it as a get rich quick scheme
EAGLEOWL Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 bruno your bang on ,but the lad just into pigeons sadly he bought into the idea of buying these so called wonder pigeons partly because of price ,and fancy name he thought this would take him to the top quicker.
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 PAUL i was asked two years ago by a young nine year old kid to sell him a pigeon off one of my best pigeons for a fiver all his savings who wanted to join the pigeon club by fellow fanciers ,seemed to be funny by some members. i gave him loan of my stock birds and my w-hood cocks 12 pairs in total for free ,this year alone he has won four first prizes in the club plus other prizes with old birds there not laughting now only lost two birds out of ten w-hood cocks and for free. yes the other lad was foolish but does not really know anything about pigeons ,but was very sad seeing him crying because his birds where dead,i know now he will never make that mistake again. yes you get good fanciers who sell pigeons who want a return on all their dedication time effort but im afraid theres far too many fanciers selling utter rubbish and the people who buy them buy them to make their birds better .sadly it only keeps them back as for sick birds survival for the healthy ones sick pigeons breed sick pigeons bad pigeons breed bad pigeons good pigeons breed good pigeons thats the way i was always brought up on pigeons. pigeons are easy to breed they cost nothing of terms of breeding them ,but far to many people see it as a get rich quick scheme well done ,the kid must have been over the moon,i know theres genuine fanciers out there who give top birds away, but on the whole as uve said theres many out there to make a quick buck ....paul
EAGLEOWL Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 paul over the moon when he won his first race ,if his mum and dad would have let him he would have kept it in a budgie cage in the bedroom for security reasons ,he can tell you step by step how the pigeon smashed through the doors to win easy easy he keeps telling me and anyone who will listern. but im delighted for the lad he now lives breaths sleeps pigeons
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 [ life to many swear words in qoute, NOT ON
Guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 paul over the moon when he won his first race ,if his mum and dad would have let him he would have kept it in a budgie cage in the bedroom for security reasons ,he can tell you step by step how the pigeon smashed through the doors to win easy easy he keeps telling me and anyone who will listern. but im delighted for the lad he now lives breaths sleeps pigeons nice to see youngsters coming through like that ...a win when they are young can make the difference to keeping him/others off the streets and doing summut usefull with their childhood...good on him!....paul.
jimmy white Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 is there no thread's about pigeons on this site everybody just seems to be selling pigeons 1 i would not buy off of anyone who never used there real name for a start 2 what club and fed do you fly in? 3 what price are the pigeon's (not make me an offer) 4what results have you had (birdage,distance) 5 any other fancier back your claims 6 how much will you give to this website when you make a sale thats some of the questions i would have if i was buying anybody agree a great guide to be going on with ,,
EAGLEOWL Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 thats the difference from youngsters coming into the sport getting them off the streets , the sport of racing pigeons is to expensive for anyone to start racing pigeons.everythings a secret ,the trouble with pigeon racing theres no one to help any new starter ,where do you go to learn the art of keeping pigeons how to breed good healthy pigeons how to train race pigeons how to keep them clean how to treat pigeons whats the right medication right housing you can go on and on . every sport has a club where you can learn from football to fishing whats there in pigeons nothing . you see everyone starts on the same foot everyones a profesional pigeonman sadly theres only one winner each week ,in most clubs feds the same winners every week thats why people pack in rather then trying to better the winners . im sure with all the kids on the streets if you opened a pigeon club ,and gave honest answers helped them learn about pigeons as above im sure we could get more members into the sport ,im sure if the top pigeonmen in each club where congratulated as champions instead of the monster of the club people could learn from them to make it a better sport for all . look when clubs bring in foreign flyers to answer questions you cannot get in the club its packed to the rafters by pigeonmen. and theres some profesional champion pigeonmen in this country imagine asking them how they motivate their birds how they condition them and getting the answers im sure everyone would be delighted just to pick up one little thing to improve their performances
trapperjoe69 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 hi can you help me create a new thread, i am a bit lost with where to click on to ?
jimmy white Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 HAVE DELETED LESS THAN SAVOURY POSTS ,, AS A MODERATOR JIMMY WHITE ,,,,,,,.ABOUT ANOTHER TWO FORUM MEMBERS ,, ,, JUST CHECK BACK POSTS TO SEE WHOS THE WISEST ,, IM AFRAID BRUNO WINS HANDS DOWN ,FOR SENSE,AND SHEER EFFORT [JUST MAYBE THATS WHY HE WAS ASKED TO BE MODERATOR] SO, PLEASE CAN WE CARRY ON WITH BARTS POST???
frank-123 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Report Posted September 26, 2007 well lets start by removing post's of sellers not giving there full name even in the bhw you have to give a name and address to get an advert people like to have a bit of fun and maybe hijack some posts if they used the chat room more this would not happen but if a post is removed can we not have an explanation to the poster in a pm telling him/her why its has been removed
Guest WINGS 04 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 Wrong. The thread asked 'is there no topics on here about pigeons'. Strange that only Selling has been picked on after one or two have had a beef about it and opened up other sham threads of their own which were removed. It is not just 'selling' that is spoiling the Site it is all the other non-pigeon related kerrap that myself and the other moderators have to clean up daily, and get criticised when we do, and criticised again when we don't.. THINK YOU ARE SPOT ON ABOUT THIS ONE BRUNO
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