RPRA AGM - The voting figures for rule changes

Mark Palmer · February 29, 2008

THE AGM OF THE R.P.R.A. WAS HELD THIS MORNING AT 9.00am

THE 13 REGIONS OF THE RPRA HAD VOTED ON THE PROPOSALS FOR RULE CHANGES AND THE 26 RPRA COUNCILLORS CAST THEIR VOTES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR GIVEN MANDATE.

THE VOTING FIGURES WERE AS FOLLOWS

NB : The propositions can be read in the BHW 25th January edition.

Proposal

7/1 Carried • 21 for • 5 against

7/2 Ruled out of order for not giving the full text of the rule in the proposal.

7/3 Carried • 22 for • 4 against

7/4 Carried • 21 for • 5 against

7/5 Carried • 20 for • 6 against

7/6 Carried • 24 for • 2 against

7/7 Carried • 14 for • 12 against

7/8 Carried • 23 for • 3 against

7/9 Defeated • 6 for • 20 against

7/10 Carried • 21 for • 5 against

7/11 Carried • 20 for • 6 against

7/12 Defeated • 11 for • 15 against

7/13 Ruled out of order - NW region making two proposals on the same rule.

7/14 Ruled out of order - NW region making two proposals on the same rule.

7/15 Carried • 23 for • 3 against

7/16 Carried • 14 for • 12 against

7/17 Ruled out of order - NW region making two proposals on the same rule.

7/18 Ruled out of order - NW region making two proposals on the same rule.

7/19 Defeated • 8 for • 18 against

7/20 Defeated • 7 for • 17 against • 2 abstentions

7/21 No Seconder

7/22 Defeated • 9 for • 17 against

7/23 Falls - due to other votes

7/24 Falls

7/25 Defeated • 10 for • 16 against

7/26 Defeated • 5 for • 21 against

7/27 Falls

7/28 Falls

7/29 Defeated • 4 for • 22 against

7/30 Falls

7/31 Falls

7/32 Carried • 22 for • 4 against

7/33 Carried • 17 for • 9 against

7/34 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/35 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/36 Carried • 25 for • 1 against

7/37 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/38 Carried • 23 for • 3 against

7/39 Carried • 13 for • 11 against • 2 abstentions

7/40 Carried • 25 for • 1 against

7/41 Carried • 24 for • 2 against

7/42 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/43 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/44 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/45 Carried • 21 for • 5 against

7/46 Defeated • 8 for • 18 against

7/47 Defeated • 7 for • 17 against • 2 abstentions

7/48 Carried • 26 for • 0 against

7/49 Defeated • 7 for • 17 against • 2 abstentions

7/50 Defeated • 7 for • 17 against • 2 abstentions

7/51 Falls due to earlier votes

7/52 Carried • 23 for • 3 against

7/53 Carried • 20 for • 6 against • 2 abstentions

7/54 Defeated • 5 for • 19 against • 2 abstentions

7/55 No Seconder

7/56 Defeated • 7 for • 19 against

7/57 Defeated • 11 for • 15 against

7/58 Defeated • 7 for • 19 against

7/59 Defeated • 5 for • 19 against • 2 abstentions.

MARK PALMER

present as a spectator at the meeting

February 29, 2008

thank you

February 29, 2008

thanks for info mark

March 1, 2008

ets wins another vote so no time pen so much for the majority of the membership if only i could fly in ireland

the only men with the guts to say no

bambam · March 1, 2008

ets wins another vote so no time pen so much for the majority of the membership if only i could fly in ireland
the only men with the guts to say no

well move to Ireland then ets is here to stay GET OVER IT its called progress amazed you even have the internet !!!!

PIGEON_MAN · March 1, 2008

ets wins another vote so no time pen so much for the majority of the membership if only i could fly in ireland
the only men with the guts to say no

Anyone can say no nobody is forcing anybody to have it.

pjc · March 1, 2008

if you don't like it don't have it!

Its also the members that don't want it that have given themselves another time penilty!

More than one rubber can be placed in a thimble again, so how many will wast seconds trying to catch a 2nd and 3rd bird to get the rubbers into the 1st thimble?

This is the 21st century, isn't it?

Back garden fancier · March 2, 2008

What about those who are last all the time? I admit that most of the time I'm at the back of the bunch! I enjoy flying my pigeons and wait until the last one gets back before relaxing. I might get ETS, but I know it won't turn me into a winner so once most people have ETS then the results will be just the same as they are now.

andy · March 2, 2008

ets wins another vote so no time pen so much for the majority of the membership if only i could fly in ireland
the only men with the guts to say no

Maybe you should go to somewhere with sand and bury yer heid in it, dingal. Nobody forcing you to use ets

March 2, 2008

ets wins another vote so no time pen so much for the majority of the membership if only i could fly in ireland
the only men with the guts to say no

i think you're being a bit hard on him. the main problem is that it was brought in undemocratically and since then it appears that the 'pro' camp, far from being pleased, has seeked to gain every other advantage it can, shouting down it's critics in the process. for some it is the final straw and they are quitting,they may not be replaced. what good is ets if your clubs workers quit and the club folds (no-one gets to fly).ets was supposed to be about 'inclusion' instead it gives the impression that it's a 'tool' to enhance the results of racing studs. ets will have to come for me ,not because i want it, but because as the club work burden falls on fewer shoulders we will have to look for labour saving devices. i'm against time penalties(to complex), but the recent case of a lawyer being used to overturn one is,to me , not sporting. that is what we aspire to be.....isn't it.

PIGEON_MAN · March 2, 2008

Wether you think it was bought in undemocratically or not is neither here or there ,the elected council of the RPRA decided that it was in the best interests of the RPRA that they voted it in at the time,I believe it was the RPRA,S own solicitors that advised them to.You say for some this was the final straw so they have quit,to me quitting because a new clocking system is introduced is a very poor excuse.Do you really think that the racing studs as you put it are going to be enhanced because of ets,if it was that easy every one would by one.

Tony C · March 2, 2008

Wether you think it was bought in undemocratically or not is neither here or there ,the elected council of the RPRA decided that it was in the best interests of the RPRA that they voted it in at the time,I believe it was the RPRA,S own solicitors that advised them to.

I was under the impression that the introduction of ETS was voted against (last year) and the decision overturned by the emergency rules committee. :-/

PIGEON_MAN · March 2, 2008

I was under the impression that the introduction of ETS was voted against (last year) and the decision overturned by the emergency rules committee. :-/

Your right Tony the vote did go against it last year,not sure if it was council or the emergency rules committee that overturned it but I know it was on the advise of the RPRA,S solicitors that they did.