is wing stamping a waste of time

[Guest spin cycle]

perhaps wingstamping a tel. no. on one wing and a message like 'BEGINNER','PLEASE REPORT' or 'WILL COLLECT' on the other. it would help us in 2 minds about reporting.knowing my luck though i'll get one wingstamped 'EAT ME ' ;D

[doo]

[you are always told by the owner that it is off "one of my best birds mate/its of a fed winner mate"] wrong or right there are two forms of stray "oh xxxx another one" or "thats looks nice i will try a couple of that"[and lets be adult about this it can happen

 

Then you get the gits that get a bird in at the back end of the year then report it in the spring after it's been flying out all winter,breeding....and now they want to race them ....I always send for them .....if they have a good eye & are good in the hand I try them in the stock section for a year ....if not they are no longer in loft.

[Guest slugmonkey]

I have 5 lofts in 3 diffrent locations and sometimes I will miss a stray, a couple of years ago I had a a bird from a club in a nearby city that I discoverd I tracked down the owner and took the bird back a couple of weeks later it showed back up, I called WE decided that I would fly the bird it did OK in a few races then it came in form and I won a race with it I then called the guy back he was exstatic he had flown a while and only had a few diplomas I offered the bird back and he was reluctant to get him back considering I had done well with it but I assured him that I had plenty of good stock and wouldnt miss it so I retuned it he seemed very happy about it then a couple of weeks later I got a thank you note explaining that he was considering quitting because he felt that his birds were not any good but after this he had decided that it wasnt his birds but bad management so he would try to do better ...

I called him and asked him about his practices and we talked a while I gave him some help and he started doing a little better . Old bird season passed and I kinda forgot about it. He called a couple of weeks before YB season and asked some questions and I offered some help he called the 1st week and told me had his best perforance to date the next week he called very excited and told me he had won his 1st race he was still at the club and couldnt hardly contain himself !!!

since this I really try to find the owner of every bird I find

[Michael J Burden]

None fanciers should always be colllected by someone.

 

Fanciers who report pigeons should be offered a different option. Eating being one of them.

I say only report them if you are prepard to keep them etc

 

Amtrack has given fanciers the best excuse so far not to have them back, £30 or don't turn up at all.

[Roland]

perhaps wingstamping a tel. no. on one wing and a message like 'BEGINNER','PLEASE REPORT' or 'WILL COLLECT' on the other. it would help us in 2 minds about reporting.knowing my luck though i'll get one wingstamped 'EAT ME ' ;D

 

Mine says 'Cook slowly over Gas'   ;D ;D

[Roland]

I wing stamp all mine actually ... bought in 30 y/b's year before last. Wing stamped them too of course. They were no more than roof hopping when Barnsley mid week fed hit them! 1 home at night, 4 worked back a few weeks hence and 4 reported which I was only pleased to fetch. Wish another 20 had been reported!

[Lennut Tar]

I wing stamp all mine actually ... bought in 30 y/b's year before last. Wing stamped them too of course. They were no more than roof hopping when Barnsley mid week fed hit them! 1 home at night, 4 worked back a few weeks hence and 4 reported which I was only pleased to fetch. Wish another 20 had been reported!

 

;D ;D ;D Sh*t happens at times Roland, & it's real fun ????   ;) . When it comes calling isn't it   :P , as we both know I'm afraid. Also like many others here etc !!!!!.  I suspect they have learnt. Only to well  :'( :'( :'(.

Enjoy

 

 

[Guest karl adams]

its been 4 weeks now and i still have had no birds back i have looked in all the towns by me to see if any are there and theres not i can not beleave that some other flyer would get them in and not report them and if thats the case no wonder people donot stay in the sport for long

[Guest IB]

None fanciers should always be colllected by someone.

 

Fanciers who report pigeons should be offered a different option. Eating being one of them.

I say only report them if you are prepard to keep them etc

 

Amtrack has given fanciers the best excuse so far not to have them back, £30 or don't turn up at all.

 

At the end of the day the pigeon is your responsibility even when it is lost. If you want it eaten, then fine, send for it first, and eat it yourself.

 

If it comes down to cost - firstly don't breed so many pigeons, that'll keep your costs down and in theory your losses by number should go down too; and secondly have your Union set up a Stray Centre to repatriate the pigeons. Ours at the moment is YB season only, and it costs £3.50 a bird.

 

There's transporters belonging to every UK Fed, which every week return empty from racepoints up and down the country. only needs the will and the organisation.

 

I agree wing stamping isn't the best, whether its a waste of time, I can't say. I know I get very few pigeons reported, last 2/3 have been non-fanciers, and I haven't seen any strays about my loft, except YBs in racing season, and those either clear or are in the Stray basket on Friday, and back with their owner by the Sunday. Absolutely no hassle to me doing that.

 

[pearse1888]

course its a waste of time i bought them rings with ur name address and phone number on not 1 reported

[Guest karl adams]

i may pack in with the racers and have a kit of tumblers and play catchers keeps  and get me a ferret to feed raceing pigeons to

[carlsberg]

i've seen a few posts on here that seems to suggest just that so what ever you decide good luck

[ch pied]

i may pack in with the racers and have a kit of tumblers and play catchers keeps  and get me a ferret to feed raceing pigeons to

mate thing's like this happen , whole team's of y / bird's lost of the loft , and not a fly away.

spooked by something around the loft , never one seen again , i know it hard , make's you gut sick , there are no word's of comfort in such case's , most folk in the sport have had somthing the like at one time or other , yet we are still here , we are a strange breed

 

 

[hicky]

me i wauld conscentrate on birds i have not what is lost 13 at £22 each and if lost do you want them back ?

[Guest karl adams]

yes i would want my birds back even if it was £30 pound each i would want them back i think there should be a rule saying if you have lost any birds you should pay the fee to have then back then those who breed large teams of young birds and mob fly would think twise about how many they send and how many they breed

[hicky]

yes i always send for mine back even if when back i dispose of them i was taught by my dad about brains in young i had 4 missing tuesday last one got back tonight flown out i have 15 flyers in 1000 yards from me if they get mine in yellow card if gold ring or other wise ring reused and in this sport must think of oap they carn,t afford these prices and dont tell me if they carn,t afford price shauld pack in sport

[gangster]

i personally use plastic id rings on mine because its easier than stamping .ive had a few reported ,i always collect or get them amtraked back....and i do report any that come here.....

[Guest spin cycle]

karl whatever you decide to do best of luck. but your beating yourself up over this ( wanting them back one minute and ferrets the next ) isn't going to help. the liklihood is that the majority of birds you lost were dead three weeks ago ( if i'm wrong....and i have been, great ). think of it this way why do fanciers keep 30 pairs of racers but do 70ybs.....they don't need 70 replacements.....they need 70 because the losses can be savage and they want to race the programme. any novice that wants to compete from the outset (ybs) has got to 'hard as nails'. otherwise build a team of yearlings that have had a couple of yb races and enjoy your pigeons. my 3 yo birds didn't race as ybs, took 1 card as yearlings but put me second averages in my club as 2yo. PATIENCE.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

all my young birds are wing stamped, everybody in our club wing stamp the young birds as it is a rule

[Merlin]

Karl wing stamping/contact ring no of course they are avery good idea,that they are not reported,in lots of instances is down to the calibre of fancier,how you legislate for their type I just dont know,my own scenario for many seasons has if it has contact details, I ring,after that its the owners decision as to fate of bird.

           If we as pigeon fanciers cant cater for a fellow fanciers bird,why should we expect any one else to give a damn.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to report via unions is totally outdated,and t

[Michael J Burden]

i may pack in with the racers and have a kit of tumblers and play catchers keeps  and get me a ferret to feed raceing pigeons to

 

 

Karl,

you are talking tosh my friend, it is not until a bird gets itself lost that I truely know their value, which to me is NIL.

 

I like to breed 100 ybs over a season and I am constantly looking for that Ace bird. In long distance birds that Ace comes along once in a blue moon. I think the shorter distance type birds are completely different except that Ace is still but a pipe dream for most.

 

[sammy]

i may pack in with the racers and have a kit of tumblers and play catchers keeps  and get me a ferret to feed raceing pigeons to

 

thats some statement to make feeding pigeons to ferrets think you are totally out of order

[Guest karl adams]

i think so to sammy  i do not feed pigeons to ferrets  but i have been told thats what a lot of people are doing when they get strays in  or they keep them and brack them in and then report them  i am going to keep what few racers i have left and stay in the sport   and if any strays come in to my loft i will be reporting them to the rpra and  the owners will have to pay to get them back  as it says in the rules  i donot now how people can breed loads of young birds and say if i lose any i hope i dont have them reported as it will cost ££££ to send for them back    then y breed them