Guest mikkey Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :P i love sarcasm
Guest slugmonkey Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 My reply has solely to do with a breeder sending birds to a one loft and doing well !!! We sold birds to a guy in Texas once that hadnt won a race in 12 years and the next year he wins 4 or 5 races including auction race and wins overall average speed when asked for an endorsment he explained that he was sure his old mexico Jannsens had done it for him and that he had sped our birds up enough to make them competitive another guy we sold birds to pulled the heads off of all of them because they hadnt produced anything worth a crap yet the next year he won everything there was to win in his club after never having done any good GOOD JOB TIMBARRA a guy in a mini cooper dosent win formula 1 no matter how good a driver he is !!!
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 I think your pigeons Slugmonkey need no validation, congratulations on putting other lofts at the top of their repected competions. A proud achievement I would only agree with. You know your pigeons and proceed in supplying other top bloodlines to improve others results again well done!!! You obviously have the Formula 1 bloodlines !! so many have mini cooper but as long as they are happy, all the best SM. regards spencer
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 we can agree to disagree rose, glad you have been fortunate with your pigeons, but i never seen a donkey win a national, only local beach races. but i respect your view girlie.. :K) spencer the dashing hero on a donkey ?
retired Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I dont think it matters what you pay, you can be given quality gift birds as easy as paying big money for quality birds. The NRCC Kings cup this winner was purchased from massarella as a £99 for six and ultimatly it won the biggest race there is on the North road. The NRCC Saxa Vord winner in 1998 flyying i beleive 568 miles on the day was bred from gift pigeons . Sure there is many more examples people could give i am just giving the two i can remember of the top of my head. I dont disagee sometimes it does pay to go and buy the best but certainly not in all cases
Roland Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 The simple reality is that the 'Managerment made the pigeon what it is ... but then only able to limited improvement. So the better the fancier and better the pigeon... but is he only as good as the pigeon allows him to be... Of course!
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 I dont think it matters what you pay, you can be given quality gift birds as easy as paying big money for quality birds. The NRCC Kings cup this winner was purchased from massarella as a £99 for six and ultimatly it won the biggest race there is on the North road. The NRCC Saxa Vord winner in 1998 flyying i beleive 568 miles on the day was bred from gift pigeons . Sure there is many more examples people could give i am just giving the two i can remember of the top of my head. Chris I agree not in all cases, spencer I dont disagee sometimes it does pay to go and buy the best but certainly not in all cases
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 Fortunate enough to have been gifted some good pigeons from top fanciers You make a good point though about not winning a national only a local race there are plenty of 1st displayed that are just that Hi rose, its good if top fanciers let you have some good birds, i can only comment on my own findings and relate my experiences to that. As for only winning clubs, you can only beat whats in front of you hun.. keep enjoying your birds. spencer , the man on the donkey who is happy to ride all day long !!!! on the beach
Geraint Parry Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I won a National with a bird gifted to me. + the best birds i ever had cost me £25 each one year i bought 12 the next year i was gifted the same birds and took it from there. to be at the top you DO NOT need to splash the cash
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 with respect mr parry, I think the sport is full of individual storys of winning and losing but we can only say what we each discover for ourselves, I sir pay alot of money and am happy winning when i do. each to their own they say. regards spencer , chasing donkey as it can now run faster than me !!!
Geraint Parry Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 spend the money if you want, but sometimes you may just get egg on your face might as well give the cash to a charity. some people are in this just for the cash, good luck to them, but like i say you can't buy a race.
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 yes i agree rose, you should have a crack at one.
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 good for you, so where in the country you based?
Merlin Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 Tournier is quoted as having said, never buy a pigeon from someone unless you trust them,its more satisfying to give a decent pigeon rather than sell one,also of the opinion this sport went into rapid decline when the money merchants came on board
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 Tournier is quoted as having said, never buy a pigeon from someone unless you trust them,its more satisfying to give a decent pigeon rather than sell one,also of the opinion this sport went into rapid decline when the money merchants came on board thats your opinion, and i dont need to sell my pigeons. keep your money and your excuse for staying midtable.
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 surrey !! you must know a few friends i know down there as i am a South London fella, steve claxton, the beasant family, d. sheppard, mo butt, ray duffield, john donovan, the list can go on... so now your in sussex, nice place to be. ;D
Merlin Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 Ooops somebody is getting very defensive here,must have touched a nerve,was it somethinh I said
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 merlin, you could not get to me if you tried, loser
timbarra Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Posted March 30, 2008 ask ray about me, he is a nice bloke... and yes only one beasant family won 2 nationals, say hello to ray for me.
joe61 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 hello merlin back from your walk down the yellow brick road with the eyesign guru bet it was the blind leading the blind or is it dumb and dumber happy days
mark Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 the best distance pigeon i had was a free hen it won frazburgh 468m and 3 weeks later won thurso 530m also won a rpra award for those 2 performances.
pjc Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I agree with Rose, best birds in the loft have all been gifted to me over the years. True Friends will always breed you birds from there best, birds that would not normally be for sale. Birds I have spent a lot money on have never matched the others. But you do need to be lucky enough to have good friends!
Lennut Tar Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 hello merlin back from your walk down the yellow brick road with the eyesign guru bet it was the blind leading the blind or is it dumb and dumber happy days Watch out every one :P . New boy on the block etc, it appears ????? "Welcome aboard" one could say !!!!!! :D . If you survive :X :X :X now, I do hope you enjoy yourself here Joe 61, even if it is a short stay : : :. Enjoy.
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