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[rembrant2coo]

, Well it would seem that jeremy has made a decision , that the birds from the one loft race have had a hard time in the last race , well jeremy i,ve raced birds now for nearly 40 years up hear in scotland and a 7 hour fly is a walk in the park for most  a good scottish contingent send to these races and they go back a week later with out any problems, and may i say win its a training flight for some to condition them for the following weeks to come , i,m really surprised you have taken a decisionlike this as in the programme of events the last race and show piece for the yearlings is the cholet race at approx  350 miles , your shorter races and hot spot ones are ideal , but to be fair to everyone these are yearlings were talking about here and the distance guys who put pigeons into the race

in the first place , would like a little kick at the ball as well , you have given the sprint guys the oppurtunity by giving them three races to suit them, hot spots and all we would like the same oppurtunity to race at the distance that has been mentioned at 350miles and upwards , then every one will be equal going for the big prize don,t you think thats fair jeremy ,  and don,t think i,m not taking the birds into consideration  i,am granted i,have not seen the birds that have comeback but to make a decision after one day back i think

whoa there a minute , give them time to come to there self and theywill be out like a shot and wanting to fly , they have over a week at home , or is there red tape hanging over

this race as well , i,ve said all i want to say jeremy you do a good job in looking after them but just a little hasty in making a decision so soon not even 24 hrs , i,m involved in the race with syndicate p/b basic2 and 1

[Guest]

Iam waiting to hear from jeremy about this harry i think its totaly wrong to change the final race distance we paid £300 pounds (alot of money) on the understanding that the race was from 350mlls not 269 and the birds that are there now should be treated the same they all had the same chance as every other one and if they are not good enough thats what 1 loft racing is all about the 28th untill the 7th june thats 12 days to recover thats plenty for good doo,s if people chose to send birds for the hot spot races thats upto them but they have had there races and i think we should have our chance to test the yearlings to the full  i would urge Jeremy to continue with the race prog as stated at the begining he has done a great job to get thease birds to this stage so dont stop now!

[Roland]

 

Well I never sent, so theoretically I don't have a gripe, or a right to one.

But to me it is obvious that if one sells an idea on a certain platform, then it should be honoured regardless of any whims. No doubt about that!

  Further when one goes into these 'Race Set ups' they do so with the given base purpose to enable them to choose a certain kind of y/b for the task ahead. Indeed I would ascertain that many may not have entered if the 'End product' wasn't going to be as stated.

  I mean why a ‘Distance’ pigeon would be bothered to be entered - at great cost may I add - for a 'Sprint! Yes a 'Sprinter will be able to hold it's own easeirly up to 350 miles... whereas a Distance bird may just be coming it to it's own.

Indeed I'd wager that the 'Distance' brigade wouldn't have bothered and felt more inclined to spend their hard earnt cash where it would recuperate more good. I.e. Training - cost of fuel, feed, also going skywards. I'd of the opinion that many wouldn't have bothered. I know I certainly wouldn't have for a no descript fly home.

Like I say in Canada they were flying the y/b's 400 miles or more back to back... and we are here molly cuddling them ... or are it to appease the whims of the faint hearted and the sprint brigade?

You pay your' money and take your chance... and the end product should be honoured as such! I mean all the risks, coulds and ifs were and was / or should have been thought out before the date was set and the basics drawn up... and should therefore be adhered to!

[Guest]

you can vote on it harry in the news from the loft and click on the link

[Jeremy]

There is nothing more i want for you than a long race. But these birds were in the basket Wednesday night for marking Thursday morning that 6 nights in the crate 29 to a crate as well with the NFC. The birds were very run down and some had wing cramp walk in the park don't think so. My own birds won the section 1000 birds two and 3 years olds look like they flowen 600 miles 18 out of 30 back. alot on coast have only 50 %. The way the votes are going you get the longer race but there not going back in the crates next Thursday but hopefully the following week.

[Guest chrisss]

You got the birds Jeremy and you know whether they are right to send back or when they will be right if they arent right they dont go bit different if they were older experienced birds but they are yearlings

 

words of wisdom indeed madam.i have no ax to grind in this matter i am not in the race,but i would be far happier to have the guy on the ground decide what is best for the birds at that time,that have the race turn into a slaughter house,damned if he does damned if he does not,good luck anyway

[Jeremy]

Thats right Rose. Thanks for the idea about the Bicc Saren its 336 miles and thats on the 14th gives me another week to get them back right if all are happy we could go there. The NFC are not going to Cholet now anyway on the 7th as no site agent they are going to Angers about 310, so the Bicc is further suits me as i want a decent final.

[Bad Trapper]

I think its down to the Loft Manager who runs the loft, he knows the birds people sat at home do not. I noticed on another website that one chap had a  Cooreman 'sprinter' in the race yesterday and that got back so it points to Jeremy's loft management skills to get them to home

[Guest]

iam not knocking Jeremy ive allways said hes done a great job but we are missing the point that thease birds were sent to do a job at a decided distance and it cost alot of money iam not against waiting as you say rose Jeremy can see the birds but thease birds are not their to build a team for years to come they are there to race but i kmow that Jeremy will do his best to please every one

[Roland]

iam not knocking Jeremy ive allways said hes done a great job but we are missing the point that thease birds were sent to do a job at a decided distance and it cost alot of money iam not against waiting as you say rose Jeremy can see the birds but these birds are not there to build a team for years to come! They are there to race! I  know that Jeremy will do his best to please every one

 

A week or so later may well be the goldern fleece. Seems to me that that is what should happen. Golly we all know how quick a pigeon recuperates in just, say three days, so I'd wager they be in fine fettle w a week on.

Personally I would only be happy with that scenario if my birds were there!

[Guest Paulo]

the man on the ground i.e. Jeremy should make the decision and people should respect it. If he sent them and it was a bad race people would be whining like hell

[Guest Paulo]

I understand why people are griping a bit through. As my yearlings did 366 from Arras last week and only dropped 2 out of the 7 sent and it was a diabolical race. However pigeons have to be fit to do this and Jeremy as the man on the ground who is looking after the birds on a daily basis is the best placed to assess their condition.

[Roland]

the man on the ground i.e. Jeremy should make the decision and people should respect it. If he sent them and it was a bad race people would be whining like hell

 

Well some will be regardless, ... as many do every week.

But this isn't a norm Club / Fed race, this was / is a event where dedicated and thoughtful members (mostly) have had time before to decide and entered on the 'Race' from and that is why. Sure 'C**P' happens, but if one is realistic in thought and then deed, it should be held over to a more suitable time.

Like Sennon Cove fiasco... 40 miles for a National... why many of us left, and I will be very surprised if I ever join the NFC & MNFC again, purely because they catered for the few and ignored the whim of the masses.

Likewise now... A week later may well be a boon... Seen disatraous days in the sun more times that in the 'Wet and Windy' but we take that chance when sending. So if a options is available to holdover for a week - or even two / 3 - and pleases most, then that is the way forward surely.

 

[Guest]

Well done Jeremy that is why the rpra 1 loft is the best one going at least you listen to the punters and make decisions again you are proving to be one of the best 1 loft managers on the go at the moment for those that havent read the news from the loft they are going to a final race over 300mls race point to be decided on the 14th  june nice one Jeremy

[Jeremy]

We Spoke to the M.N.F.C Secretary today we have the all clear to join there club and race against them. So i am pretty sure that they we be going to Tours which is 348 miles to us..

[Guest]

spot on jeremy

[S.D.B LOFTS]

Well done jeremy it looks like the right move for everybody.

[Roland]

spot on jeremy

 

Agree 100%.