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Guest chrisss
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if you were letting your yb's out for the first time [on the darkness system] what time would you let them out[iv'e had my birds darkened from 17.00 to 09.00]

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Between the snow, hail, gales & downpours best ;D

 

I take mine of darkness at 9:30, light feed at 10:00, have them out at 3pm

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I HAVE MINE OUT 12 OCLOCK  BACK IN AT 2  OCLOCK FEED THEM  ON DARK 5 TILL 8  GIVE THEM TIME TO FEED DRINK AND PEARCH UP BEFORE BACK ON DARK  NEVER FEED JUST BEFORE  YOU PUT BACK ON THE DARK

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if you were letting your yb's out for the first time [on the darkness system] what time would you let them out[iv'e had my birds darkened from 17.00 to 09.00]

 

9.40 GIVING THEM TIME FOR THERE EYES TO AJUST TO THE LIGHT. ;)

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if you were letting your yb's out for the first time [on the darkness system] what time would you let them out[iv'e had my birds darkened from 17.00 to 09.00]

 

depends on the times of trainers going over your area!!!!! say if they go over between 12 noon and 1300hrs then 1400 would be grand just avoid your local trainers an they'll be grand  :P

Guest TAMMY_1
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If you just reared them on natural light you would not have to worry about the time , I can let mine out any time that suits, not restricted by an unnatural system which is solely enforced by desperate folk wanting to win a young bird race, because there is no other reason for doing it .

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  I can let mine out any time that suits, not restricted by an unnatural system which is solely enforced by desperate folk wanting to win a young bird race, because there is no other reason for doing it .

 

Desperate? no Tammy, competitive yes!

 

 

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I don't do darkness, but I'm interested in the subject in this thread.

 

Following the National Geographic TV programme on pigeons a week or so ago, which talked about clock-shifting - someone mentioned that this was something darkness fanciers knew about and time birds were allowed out or trained, took it into account.

 

If you lighten up at 0900, then the birds internal clock thinks its at least 3 hours earlier and according to the sun-compass theory, records the sun's position in the sky at this time, not at 0900, and throws that navigation system out.

 

From memory it takes 4 hours for a clock-shifted pigeon to normalise.

 

 

Guest TAMMY_1
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Desperate? no Tammy, competitive yes!

 

 

We are all competative, but I personally just prefer young birds to grow naturally, not forcing them through something that is against nature

Guest TAMMY_1
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I WILL 2Nd THAT  ;D

 

SECOND IN EVERYTHING   ;D ;D

Guest chrisss
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If you just reared them on natural light you would not have to worry about the time , I can let mine out any time that suits, not restricted by an unnatural system which is solely enforced by desperate folk wanting to win a young bird race, because there is no other reason for doing it .

 

this is my first year of racing ,this darkness system is an experiment for me ,if iam going to race [with all of the expense that entails]i am buggered if iam going to be last everyweek[only racing young birds]like every other new starter i KNOW ;D ;D that iam going to set the world on fire[yes i know at the end of the year i will be sobbing  :'( :'( :'(]

Guest TAMMY_1
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this is my first year of racing ,this darkness system is an experiment for me ,if iam going to race [with all of the expense that entails]i am buggered if iam going to be last everyweek[only racing young birds]like every other new starter i KNOW ;D ;D that iam going to set the world on fire[yes i know at the end of the year i will be sobbing  :'( :'( :'(]

 

racing darkness will not make you win every week, nor does flying young birds natural mean you will be last every week

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this is my first year of racing ,this darkness system is an experiment for me ,if iam going to race [with all of the expense that entails]i am buggered if iam going to be last everyweek[only racing young birds]like every other new starter i KNOW ;D ;D that iam going to set the world on fire[yes i know at the end of the year i will be sobbing  :'( :'( :'(]

 

I tried darkness for the 1st time last year 1st round on darkness 2nd round natuaral and the natural y/b's never beat the darkness once in 5 races ;)

Guest chrisss
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racing darkness will not make you win every week, nor does flying young birds natural mean you will be last every week

 

no but from what i understand its gives me better odds ref the wing moult [if/when i have an old bird team to fly and do not have to concentrate on ybs i doubt that i would bother with it]how many people race youngs birds to the perch natural nowdays [unless its just to teach the babies?]and no its not a case of following the herd if everyone done the same thing life would be very boring, apart from that the methods are constantly evolving each to their own

Guest TAMMY_1
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no but from what i understand its gives me better odds ref the wing moult [if/when i have an old bird team to fly and do not have to concentrate on ybs i doubt that i would bother with it]how many people race youngs birds to the perch natural nowdays [unless its just to teach the babies?]and no its not a case of following the herd if everyone done the same thing life would be very boring, apart from that the methods are constantly evolving each to their own

 

me for one , but i know there are  more on the forum who do it as well

Guest chrisss
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me for one , but i know there are  more on the forum who do it as well

 

i started this thread as been a new starter [to racing] iwas interested in how people fly on the darkness system and to get some advice on times etc not to have a row about who flys what to where :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

Guest TAMMY_1
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i started this thread as been a new starter [to racing] iwas interested in how people fly on the darkness system and to get some advice on times etc not to have a row about who flys what to where :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

there is no row, i simply answered the question you asked in your post which was HOW MANY PEOPLE FLY NATURAL TO THE PERCH

Guest Paulo
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racing darkness will not make you win every week, nor does flying young birds natural mean you will be last every week

 

Thats true enough you'll do ok in the first 4 races but once the distance increases your knackered. Perosnally i don't regret racing natural in my first season as it taught me alot about the birds and I didn't have any chew on with yb sickness etc.

 

This year I have 15 cocks on darkness and 20 on natural

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i'm putting half my y/birds on darkness, did well on it in 2002

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