europa birds are set to go sun

[ChrisMaidment08]

please discribe youer view

[ChrisMaidment08]

Still no birds  arrived  at europa loft 19. 05

Now  getting quite dark.

 

br very surprised to see any home tonight

[red1chq3]

another point for all you synics, if there was underhandness surly there would have been a bird timed by now, I mean the possiblty of no birds on the day!! its unconceviable.

[pjc]

If they held the birds until tomorrow where the forecast is good then how many people would take a day off and go?

Just look at the full page advert in the BHW to see how much money has been spent, let alone, how many people would have gone today for the Auction of the South West race if there wasn't the bonus of the Europa?

 

Money, money, money and sod the birds!

[tyson]

if this had been a fed race the race controler and convoyer would have been sacked i stay about 10 mls as the crow flies from s/queensferry and i have never seen the hills all day the weather has been rain all day and a cold wind i dont think many birds would leave the central belt total disgrace I feel for the poor pigeons..

[ChrisMaidment08]

another point for all you synics, if there was underhandness surly there would have been a bird timed by now, I mean the possiblty of no birds on the day!! its unconceviable.

 

haveing taken part i feel i can comment i watched winner come over hedge and loft stand on board shake itself then walk in this after 300 miles not given any extra other than what it could fight to eat all its life that bird belonged to land owner

[tyson]

if this had been a fed race the race controler and convoyer would have been sacked i stay about 10 mls as the crow flies from s/queensferry and i have never seen the hills all day the weather has been rain all day and a cold wind i dont think many birds would leave the central belt total disgrace I feel for the poor pigeons..

[red1chq3]

A good point PJC, but with a whole host of world class flyers in this race, are the orginisers really going to put the birds safty in jepordy, if so then it may well be the end of EUROPA CLASSIC as we know it!! ( nailing there own coffin), I myself can't really see it.

[ChrisMaidment08]

A good point PJC, but with a whole host of world class flyers in this race, are the orginisers really going to put the birds safty in jepordy, if so then it may well be the end of EUROPA CLASSIC as we know it!! ( nailing there own coffin), I myself can't really see it.

 

sorry but there will always be fanciers who will put birds in one lofts the lure of big money look at the entrys from studs 30  40 birds a time  last year his soninlaw won  this raised few eyebrows peaple still comment on it same as when landlord won but thats how it goes our 6 birds went in one race  birds on list final race have tough time we all know that but as quoated how can you hold over with so much money being made ticket price alone plus what dereck spends keeping all going for day

[Guest Thunder Birds]

I have entered birds in the Europa and have done twice before (before anyone asks 22nd in 2003 & 32nd in 2007) and unfortunately it does appear a big mistake has been made today. Up until this last race the birds have been looked after extremely well - to have over 1100 birds in the final race is a great credit to the organisers

 

I for one entered my birds to see how they competed with other flyers on an even keel - true there's a money making element for the organisers and theres always going to be some element of luck as with any race but same feed, same motivation, same treatments, same loft - how else can you test the actual quality of your birds and cancel out all the other variables?! Not only that but in today's age where our sport struggles to compete with other leisure pursuits and the pure fact that many people don't have the time one lofts are a fantastic innovation and if run correctly can only benefit our sport.

 

If anyone has a bird in tonight and it's in good enough condition please let it rest and then continue it's journey tomorrow! - there are lots of people holding out hope for these birds! My main hope is that this race doesn't spoil things for years to come! I won't be responding to any replies to this message but felt I needed to add my opinion!

[ChrisMaidment08]

youer opinion is appreciated yes i go and see dereck and birds and air my views the birds and setup are fualtless but and thats the trouble they always come up and its because its big money  buts but

[Guest strapper]

i bought ten birds from the auction they have back 2 yrs a go,didnt like the way they were handled and put into boxes...like grabbing a load of grapes to fill a bag.

my m8s and i didnt think much of their attitude either....smiles can easily be shown when money is a factor!

mind u..i loved the lofts.

another thing when tony cowan struck the hammer for a sale it was on the cage the bird was in...thought the bird would have been stressed enough without that...im not bothered how others see the actions of them...its wot i saw amd made my opinion based on it.

[shotgun tim]

its terrible letting birds go in this weather they should be banned from running this race.mr nichols is only bothered about 1 thing .....his wallet!!!!

[pjc]

Tim , that was so obvious from the TV programme as well!

[Guest strapper]

lets be honest....did anyone think that mr nichols sounded like a nice guy...... or a cocky git?

everyone i spoke too said he gave the wrong impression to the general public.

[oscar_]

correct .

[JADE]

they did something similar 2 or 3 years ago went to aberdeen after the edinburgh race and liberated them on a day you wouldnt let ducks out they were in roofs all over north of scotland dont know if any ever got home. i got one in that time and phoned mobile number about a dozen times on wing stamp but got no answer

[pjc]

All take and no give!

[shotgun tim]

iv spoken to him at auctions and i thought cocky git he does nothing for pigeon racing and this proves it.wel all be getting the birds in tomorro

[pjc]

whoever gets birds in can be sure they won't be paying a courier to get them back!

[Ian McKay]

they did something similar 2 or 3 years ago went to aberdeen after the edinburgh race and liberated them on a day you wouldnt let ducks out they were in roofs all over north of scotland dont know if any ever got home. i got one in that time and phoned mobile number about a dozen times on wing stamp but got no answer

 

Not very good when you do not live in Aberdeen and do not know what you are talking about

[ChrisMaidment08]

trouble is rose its done and nothing can be done for birds pity the fanciers whose birds are still in there names not trans fered

[pjc]

I think even if there were thunderstorms from start to finish the would have been up, just look at the advert in the BHW Rose, they were committed!

[tippler1]

thay will be alot that wont get reported you should not but money before peoples birds

[rooster]

one thing for sure they can't say the birds clashed