what would you pay

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could fancier,s give their opinion on this please ,how much would you be prepared to pay for adirect son of a 1st section winner in nfc sect  L  only bird on day in section  516 miles , plus same bird has also been 2ND section 408 miles        open positions were 42ND  and 108TH

[ChrisMaidment08]

100 no more  if natinol winner thats diffrent   son     i sold blacky nat winner 350

[bewted]

DEPENDS ON WHO THE FANCIER IS AND HIS OVERALL PERFORMANCES TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TOO !!

[ChrisMaidment08]

just bought hen whos son has done more   for 10 quid

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just bought hen whos son has done more   for 10 quid

 

you got a bargain, can you say whats she,s won exactly

[Guest strapper]

i would take in to consideration how many birds in the section , and the competition in that section.

so many section winners get sold for big money without the buyer 1st considering the competition against it.

im not knocking anyone but these points should be looked at b4 buying.

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

you got a bargain, can you say whats she,s won exactly

 

if previous owner reads this he can tell you i bought it in phorbes sale    includes good positions in mnfc

[ChrisMaidment08]

and i beleave her son has 6 firsts?????

[ChrisMaidment08]

breeding is clasion   alphoneshires  granddaughter to speedy winner 12 firsts

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i would take in to consideration how many birds in the section , and the competition in that section.

so many section winners get sold for big money without the buyer 1st considering the competition against it.

im not knocking anyone but these points should be looked at b4 buying.

 

without going onto national flying clu b web site , i could,nt say what birds were in each section , but apartfrom section E ,   L  is one of the biggest senders , i would have thought the open positions alone would say that this pigeon is no dummy .    3887 birdsin one race and 9087 in next race  vel 1030  and 1033  

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

without going onto national flying clu b web site , i could,nt say what birds were in each section , but apartfrom section E ,   L  is one of the biggest senders , i would have thought the open positions alone would say that this pigeon is no dummy .    3887 birdsin one race and 9087 in next race  vel 1030  and 1033  

have sent you pm       its not a joke

 

[Guest strapper]

 

without going onto national flying clu b web site , i could,nt say what birds were in each section , but apartfrom section E ,   L  is one of the biggest senders , i would have thought the open positions alone would say that this pigeon is no dummy .    3887 birdsin one race and 9087 in next race  vel 1030  and 1033  

 

well there is good birdage in them sections, wasnt trying to be little the bird just making a point about buying section winners without knowing birdage,  some sections having just a few hundred or so birds...its ok when the birdage is low because of distance races but ive seen some with very low birage at sprint races.

 

as ive said wasnt on about the bird in question.

 

[Guest shadow]

its consistent performance you want not oneoff  of race winners who may have got lucky or had a slight edge on the day

[tippler1]

i think you know what you wont some people come on here ask questions about things hoping thay tell the person what thay wont to here then if the bird dont do what it should its the people on this and other sites hope you dont take it the wrong way i am on about some people do this just not that good with words at the end of the day its only you can deside what to do all the best

[harky]

could fancier,s give their opinion on this please ,how much would you be prepared to pay for adirect son of a 1st section winner in nfc sect  L  only bird on day in section  516 miles , plus same bird has also been 2ND section 408 miles        open positions were 42ND  and 108TH

 

only you can decide that one .if you like the pigeon then its your decision   :) :)

[retired]

Any bird is only worth as much as the buyer thinks it is

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the reason for this thread was to try and assertain a guide as to what fanciers look for etc , maybe i should make myself more clear , right, no 1  i can have the bird in question for nothing if i want , but i already have enough of same blood lines , a friend of mine is selling this bird on elimar at a starting price of 40 quid as yet not one bid on it  My thinking behind this is because the bird in question is not the flavour of the month strain i.e. its a Dordin.  Now if this pigeon was Belgium rung or a van whatsit, I am sure the lines would be red hot. Are fanciers more swayed by strain than performances?

[harky]

the reason for this thread was to try and assertain a guide as to what fanciers look for etc , maybe i should make myself more clear , right, no 1  i can have the bird in question for nothing if i want , but i already have enough of same blood lines , a friend of mine is selling this bird on elimar at a starting price of 40 quid as yet not one bid on it  My thinking behind this is because the bird in question is not the flavour of the month strain i.e. its a Dordin.  Now if this pigeon was Belgium rung or a van whatsit, I am sure the lines would be red hot. Are fanciers more swayed by strain than performances?

 

no ,if a like apigeon ill buy it irespctive of strain ,its what the men that these strains are based on done to create them anyway :) :)

[peterpau]

Are fanciers more swayed by strain than performances?

The answer is obviously yes. I did see the bird in Question and was tempted but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did look at the dordins and was not put off by breed but I don't keep prisoners.

[tippler1]

if the bird did well i would buy it but first i would like to buy the ones that breed it but thats if i ad the money to do so and on my post on here i never ment no harm i just have trouble buting things across in the right way

[retired]

the reason for this thread was to try and assertain a guide as to what fanciers look for etc , maybe i should make myself more clear , right, no 1  i can have the bird in question for nothing if i want , but i already have enough of same blood lines , a friend of mine is selling this bird on elimar at a starting price of 40 quid as yet not one bid on it  My thinking behind this is because the bird in question is not the flavour of the month strain i.e. its a Dordin.  Now if this pigeon was Belgium rung or a van whatsit, I am sure the lines would be red hot.

 

Yes seems so on Friday afternoon i bought a daughter of 1st section NRCC Lerwick (500 Miles) who is also mother of 1st Open NRCC Perth (4622b) and plenty of other winners for £20-00

 

Its a cracking hen from a proven background however instead of Koopman etc on pedigree it has braspenning,buscharrt, silvere toye & VDB so seems to have a lower value - i bought two from the nest the same way bred earlier for £50 - The NRCC may not be the NFC but winners are still winners so i am happy that no one else seems to want them as it means i dont have to pay crazy prices  

 

 

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no problem tippler i know what you meant , i know the price i would pay for it if i was looking for more stock   ie if this bird was at an entire clearence sale i would nt think twice about bidding 100 quid for , also ive lucky in respect of having what you would call inside information

[tippler1]

it all helps in buying birds if you do maybe i should get out more lol

[hepste]

the reason for this thread was to try and assertain a guide as to what fanciers look for etc , maybe i should make myself more clear , right, no 1  i can have the bird in question for nothing if i want , but i already have enough of same blood lines , a friend of mine is selling this bird on elimar at a starting price of 40 quid as yet not one bid on it  My thinking behind this is because the bird in question is not the flavour of the month strain i.e. its a Dordin.  Now if this pigeon was Belgium rung or a van whatsit, I am sure the lines would be red hot. Are fanciers more swayed by strain than performances?

 

 

Without question, fanciers are swayed by strain names.  If  I buy a pigeon, it has to have flown consistently well for more than one season, and has descended from pigeons that have performed.  I ain't worried about strain names.  To give you an example, I was at Jimmy Dickens sale today.  As one of the van reet/vandenabeeles started to rise in price, I overheard one fancier say "What a ridiculous price for a cross"  Laughable but true!

 

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Without question, fanciers are swayed by strain names.  If  I buy a pigeon, it has to have flown consistently well for more than one season, and has descended from pigeons that have performed.  I ain't worried about strain names.  To give you an example, I was at Jimmy Dickens sale today.  As one of the van reet/vandenabeeles started to rise in price, I overheard one fancier say "What a ridiculous price for a cross"  Laughable but true!

 

yes hepste your dead right , they stop and think that the so called pure,s are nothing but a multitude of crosses in the first place ,  my own thoughts on this are that they are only buying for one reason ,and that is to sell them on again