paul10121968 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 is it possible to break in an old bird from another loft.?has anyone ever done it?if so what was involved in getting the bird to return to his new home?.getting some birds soon and i was wondering if it was worth doing this.your advice is welcome.paul
Guest strapper Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 if this was early on in the year then i would get the bird down on eggs for a start. then dont be too hasty to let the bird out. put a bath in front of the loft and let it out with the rest,treat it like a youngbird out for the 1st time.
peterpau Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 Of course it can be done. You must be able to get them back, when they go to there home loft. Breaking yearlings from a local loft is loads more viable than trying to break 5 year olds from 300 mile away. Best o'Luck.
Guest asha Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 Hi Paul, Of course you can,did it various times, different lofts,no need to have them paired,or on eggs ,or any of that nonesense, as long as it`s not to far to travel,and you are happy too pick them back up 1or2 timesyou will have a very good sucsess rate,i fact the better the bird ,easier to break,even 500, mile birds can be broke in 4-6 days.
fletch Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 yes this can be done my dad broke a three year old cock from someone in the same street only took 3 or 4 times to fetch him back. that pigeon went on to take prizes from 3 of the 4 water races finishing second from saintes on the day. i also agree with a previous comment of the better the bird the easier it is..
stevebelbin Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 I did it in 2005, as long as the old loft is easily accessible its easy. Pair them up in the new loft, only let one sex out at a time. When they return to the old loft get them in and take them straight back, do it a few times and one or two will start to learn the new loft position. After a while they will all learn. NEVER feed them in their old loft though as their new home should be the only place they can get food. I raced mine on widowhood and they would fly two and frow between the lofts and were fitter for it, and I got some good combine positions with them to. Not that I condone violence, but I was told a story of someone settling a loft full of pigeons in a day by simply taking them to a new loft and when they returned to the old loft scaring the hell out of them, not sure exactly how though!!
fletch Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 The scareing i have heard is put them under a dustbin lid then kick it a few times then supposedely they wont come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never tryed it though
Guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 If the old loft where the birds use to live is still being used as a race loft, i would suggest you tell the previous owner when you are about to let them out, so he/she can make sure his/her birds are not out and that no food is availible to the birds that are being broken. you will have to fetch them for a few days, but they soon get the idea that the food is at their new home not the old one, thats how i did it and my birds went on to win races .........amanda :) i hope this helps
Guest asha Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 Disgracful treating birds like that,should be ashamed,
Guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 Which post are you referring too ? i should think the one with the dustbin in it >
Roland Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 Best way is able is simple build the loft. Place water and a little feed in it. Fetch the new birds and let them feed. Let them out. Fetch them hungry the next day. Very quickly they will leave their old loft and come to the new one for feed etc. on own accord. Birds are only every any good if broken withi days. No matter how mant times you fetch back, let them out every three days if possible.
Beanz Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I hope so m8 as I have 29 to break, should be interesting. Paul
Guest strapper Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Disgracful treating birds like that,should be ashamed, i can see ur a popular person, both ur posts u have discredited others posts.
tippler1 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 i started up again with 14 old birds i broke all of them but the birds did come localy so was easy to fetch and break hope you do well with yours
The Game Keeper Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 just tape the birds wing for a couple of days let birds walk about get used to surroundings take tape of let them have a bath hay ho any brains urika
Guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I hope so m8 as I have 29 to break, should be interesting. Paul Hi Paul i broke 26 birds in less than a week , i will admit that on the first inland race the next season, i watched 4 of them go to my mom's lol. but 3 came stright back the other 1 was later that night, but they never went there again.
Roland Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 First time I started up, had 24 given me via a fancier that was giving up. March the 10th. First race was 19th of April. Race whole program North and South. Finished up with 17. Would have been more, but he pulled his loft down a mite too early, and hadn't sttled 3 or 4. One came back every year for three years just prior to the first race.Mated, he raced through to Lerwick, and dissappeared just after till next season. Obviously had two homes....
john@formula 1 lofts Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I did it this year with my old birds did not break the y/b'S as y/b loft was staying at old address. but i broke old birds to a new loft and location half a mile away in a couple of weeks. and these birds went on to win 8x1sts. only 2 birds which would not break from 20 after a few attempts i gave up on them 2. John
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