treat or not no2

[frank-123]

in reply to vincent's post where he wont treat i thought i would run a poll just to get some answers

please tick as many options that suit your methods

[OLDYELLOW]

should of added by vets instuctions only

[OLDYELLOW]

i went for naturaly treat but if my birds had anything i would treat them on my vets intructions

[Beanz]

Will only treat if they have anything wrong with them.

 

 

 

                                                           Paul

[sapper756]

I treat all my birds b4 pairing them up, treat for cocci, canker and worms also give  a 3 in 1 treatment TDK , after every 3rd race, just as a precaution, incase there is something going around in the race baskets.

[Guest spin cycle]

frequency of treatments will vary...some will treat more often than others. i treat for cocci / canker /worms 3 times a year at rec. dose but only for 1 day leaving a week at least between treatments...preventative if you like. if you let the birds get ill you will use more medicine in the long run JMO

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

you should NOT have to treat for cocci if your loft is in good sound dry condition

[Guest rodders]

personally i think the only pigeon men that dont treat on a regular system while racing are asking for trouble cos your bird is only as healthy as the worse bird in that crate

as for waiting for vets advice the nearest vet to me that knows anything about pigeon is about 70 miles away and i dont drive so if was to wait for advice bird would prob be past help  

[Simeon Turner]

you should NOT have to treat for cocci if your loft is in good sound dry condition

 

Not necessarily Ben, the lofts can be wonderfully dry, but if the birds are put under stress the Cocci count can rise (and the canker count for that matter).

[Guest]

personally i think the only pigeon men that dont treat on a regular system while racing are asking for trouble cos your bird is only as healthy as the worse bird in that crate

as for waiting for vets advice the nearest vet to me that knows anything about pigeon is about 70 miles away and i dont drive so if was to wait for advice bird would prob be past help  

 

spot on would love to be brave enough not to treat but think you will be holding up the sheet for most of the season if you want to compete with the big boys your birds must be clear of all ailments at all times

[jimmy white]

i have voted for   "something else" in the context , treated that  if needed,, i would much rather have a full droppings,swab test,  regular,, my intent would be to try and  have healthy pigeons, by cleanliness ,dryness , and good loft management,

but treated if need be

 

in the past i have found out ,  that fanciers  can have the dryest ,cleanest loft , but forget about the outside of the loft, i usually watering can , all this area , with jeyes  fluid or virkon s , as in my opinion this is were most worms, cocci  oocysts can thrive

[allenyeates]

Personnally I belive we have made ourselves our own worst enimies for treating on a regular and more than likely unnescerilly basis.  I belive you should not treat livestock if nothing is wrong. You don,t take a child to the doctor incase they get a cough do you? Same as animals/birds prevention is better than cure.... but if you suspect something is not right then get it checked by a competant vet.(droppings by post even!) It will save you money and more importantly heartache and birds in the long run........ Remember nature is always right and you go against her at your peril. Natural products if possible for me but I,m not afraid to use a vet or antibiotic if advised by a proffesional! I realise this is the modern world and things have moved on but think back to harder times and fanciers of old and some of thier ways(rusty nails in drinker etc). Harder times / harder pigeons,ANIMALS etc.... Where they all wrong? I think not!!! Just a few thoughts of a carrot cruncher.. all comments welcome!

 

 

[just ask me]

i treat during the racing season and before i  pair them up and then noting for the rest of the year  i think its a must as we put birds from different lofts in the one hamper on race day which i still belive is madness now i see on the new transporters that the water travels through all the drinkers so if its in one crate it travels too the rest madness again i think i belive because of this a worm dose cocci and canker dose through the racing season is a must just my thoughts

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

spot on would love to be brave enough not to treat but think you will be holding up the sheet for most of the season if you want to compete with the big boys your birds must be clear of all ailments at all times

 

have to agree with you here Frank

[Guest cloudview]

this a very debatable subject

speaking for myself  i dont treat very often probably once a year for canker usually mid june time  , before major channel races are due  , although im always vigilent and watch for any changes in an around the loft

if droppings are right  and birds are flying with gusto , i leave well alone

and i very rarely have sick pigeons, thing is where does it all end  you could canker cocci worm  every week if birds are racing every week  example canker on sun, mon , send at weekend and birds could pick it up again ,its never ending and of course these products dont come chear either

[oscar_]

in the past ive treated for all the above £££ ,this year am going to get tests done £15 then take it from er  

[slatey]

i treat during the racing season and before i  pair them up and then noting for the rest of the year  i think its a must as we put birds from different lofts in the one hamper on race day which i still belive is madness now i see on the new transporters that the water travels through all the drinkers so if its in one crate it travels too the rest madness again i think i belive because of this a worm dose cocci and canker dose through the racing season is a must just my thoughts

 

same has you treat during racing/before breeding then nothing but corn and water out of racing

[DOVEScot]

We treat as naturally as possibe to keep the common nasties away, but would only treat with medicine if they are ill, Vacinate them every year and get droppings tested to see if it is all in order

[oscar_]

good post dovecot , makes senance ,do u fly in the sunny dundee club  

[The Navigator]

Treat as you see fit.

[philsreturn]

Treat sick birbs never. You are only fooling yourself, as for treating blindly more money than sense

but then if the Belgiums do it ????. Any wonder sometimes I look on pigeon fanciers as being a flock of sheep

[OLDYELLOW]

personally i think the only pigeon men that dont treat on a regular system while racing are asking for trouble cos your bird is only as healthy as the worse bird in that crate

as for waiting for vets advice the nearest vet to me that knows anything about pigeon is about 70 miles away and i dont drive so if was to wait for advice bird would prob be past help  

 

if you test on a regular bases then you wouldnt end up with birds that are very ill in the first place , if i came across an ill bird , first id isolate have a testing kit already at home or be prepared to travel the 70 miles if your birds are worth it , ill birds or birds falling ill have weak immune systems and are a gate way to illness in any loft , i would promtly remove these birds no mater of cost or racing ability

[nogin]

Treat as you see fit.

 

have to agree whith you....100%