Guest bigda Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 the rpa where in a no win situation as to ets the first thing they had to contend with is the use of, and what is described as a disability, and the lawyer would have had a field day as to the time they would have taken to resolve the situation, by that time your funds would have been exhausted, not all disabled fancier want it but there was never a census done to see it how Manny that wanted to use it either, so not knowing how Manny disabled fanciers that there are, or how Manny in later years there would be, and also able bodied fanciers needs, its left as you can use it if you want, is the fairest way with out all been levied with say £200 min towards court costs that no one has mentioned :-/
Guest spin cycle Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 the rpa where in a no win situation as to ets the first thing they had to contend with is the use of, and what is described as a disability, and the lawyer would have had a field day as to the time they would have taken to resolve the situation, by that time your funds would have been exhausted, not all disabled fancier want it but there was never a census done to see it how Manny that wanted to use it either, so not knowing how Manny disabled fanciers that there are, or how Manny in later years there would be, and also able bodied fanciers needs, its left as you can use it if you want, is the fairest way with out all been levied with say £200 min towards court costs that no one has mentioned :-/ but we don't know that because i don't think the legal advice the rpra got was ever published .... if it was the case that ets had to be introduced for dda or risk financial ruin of rpra.....then why not publish ?
andrecrock Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 god I'm to scared to post my reply.............i feel for young birds and sprint racing the ets is a brilliant system.Long distance is a different story and the t3/stb is fine.I must admit,I'm happy with my t3,i love my birds and cant wait to see them returning after a race,i go in the loft catch the bird give him a kiss on the head welcome him/her home and then remove the rubber.I'm young and there is still plenty of time for glory!Technology is moving forward and one day I'm gone have to invest in a ETS.....please don't bite my head of :'( :'( :'(
Guest bigda Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 but we don't know that because i don't think the legal advice the rpra got was ever published .... if it was the case that ets had to be introduced for dda or risk financial ruin of rpra.....then why not publish ? there where a lot of shouts to go down that road of the court but they didn't like the £200min levy paid up front to go to the courts its the one way to find them out, ask for money first :-/
Roland Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Posted January 7, 2009 I dont visit the forum very often so i havent noticed this as much as you have obviously, but i agree that it shouldnt be brought up in the situations you mention. If someone asks which ETS make is best, the only discussion should be the pros and cons between the ETS systems and manual clocking shouldnt even enter the conversation with regards to the ETS. have to agree with you there. Exactly mate. And the point being, as well proven once again, regardless what part, or any point is asked for, or made, it will finish up with the same ole codswallop that we have now! Again, churning out the same ole for and against ETS. Wouldn't be loverly if just once, posters got the drift and stuck to it... Not like Steve St. who can't get even a sensible reply, but feels that he has to, and then gives into the urge with some stupid sarcasm as it if is clever and doing HIS bit to defend and stick up for the ET's how sad! Bigda, wel he don't care and rumbles on in a needless defence that hasn't been attacked. And so on, and all the POINT was 'Why can any part of the et be discussed, and help given ithout the innate same old rubbish being spouted. P.s. I honestly daren't ask the two things I woulkd wish to be answered. Bet there are dozen more like me eh!
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 on a crusade rolly or just bored mate is noone allowed to speak besides you on anything ;) ;D ;D
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 just read it again and to be honest you are against and for it but you go so far around the bush it baffles me this sport needs ets like hole in head at moment with all the costs involved and as to stb you will not upset birds if they are used to being handled and tamed as youngsters i can pick mine up in yard never mind in shed stall trap so you can catch them same as always to clock
Roland Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Posted January 7, 2009 on a crusade rolly or just bored mate is noone allowed to speak besides you on anything ;) ;D ;D You just did again ... pass the paper lol ;D ;D But would really help Chris if they actually answered, or asked even, with regards of what is actually being said. Always found that to be helpful lol ;D ;D
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 anyway rolly youer fun but im off bed solicitors in morning to start things moveing so up early ten oclock no five really night mate so dont change just keep talking ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Merlin Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 Roland if you something to ask,just go ahead and do so,that ain't your form
Roland Posted January 8, 2009 Author Report Posted January 8, 2009 Merlin, I sure would, believe me lol. I have asked, discussed, seen for over 10 years the Pro and Cons. But this post was purely a simple demonstration of how folks just have to defend - and some time anti the subject. Never seen a post where the Pro Lobbyist didn't come out of the woodwork to defend, even insult and demean none users. Fact one. The only part of the topic to ask about was 'Why? do they? There is only one answer to Why, and that is because.... No answers there then. Fact two. Though they - most - never got the simple gist, it was quickly turned into as I say always needlessly happens. Fact three, I never said one way or the other any views o the system. I never showed a preference one-way or the other. Never said whether I liked it or not. Never comment whether it was good or bad, nor did I say whether I have one or not. Indeed a list of other things I never said.... yet had answers too lol. Never got any answers as to why I never got the main question answered. POINT being is why?. And two as of now! Why won't posters leave be when questions are raised, or asked in regards the ET? Surely the No haves know only too well the benefits!!! Pss! They don't need teaching that, let alone enlightening on that score! So maybe the Pro lobbyists should for once be honest with them selves and just think, THERE must be a reason why 99% of them don't have one! Further as Bigda implied 'Bully for the Haves, and tough c**p on those that don't have. That is another resentful aspects via those that can't have one! P.s. there are many reasons why some don't have them, or can't.... But it's certainly not to gain an advantages, and you can take that to the bank. Am I for or against? Well I defy anyone to put forward a realistic reason why the ET isn't beneficial. Do I believe that they have / will harm the sport in some leaving. 100% certain that is and has happen. Do I care? Yes, very much so. Do I have one? No! Will I? well that may well happen when A. I see that vast majority in the club / Fed having then (It will be so I’m sure) and B. When I can afford it, and can warrant it with the other half as a 'Need'! Hope this clears this topic up a little.
swilcox Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 I really dont think any of this matters now, its in and i guess it will stay. I was against it really at the start and didnt get it until this last summer gone and after using it i can see some real benefits so i will carry on using it. Stuart
Roland Posted January 8, 2009 Author Report Posted January 8, 2009 Again John, you are doing the very thing That this topic was to prove. We all know them answers. But why for instance did you feel you had to answer as such? You have literally just endorsed the ET which every one knows is here and will stay! My question is simple Why do they do as you have just done? And now the very point I was making is confirmed now and set in cemment! I, personally, would just loce to see posters able to ask, and get straight forward, unbiased answers. That surely now seem illogical, and will never happen I guess. And those that want answers, and have genuine concerns won't bother to ask - more the shame - because they already know the answers that will flood in ... and they certainly won't relay any fears, nor will they be answered ... mores the pity. P.s John, I'm nt be phesious at all, just making the point over the very point I am making!
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