win nothing but want to win..

[joe61]

:-/

I've yet to basket for a race I'm raising my first round of racers out of a kit of 08 late hatches as we speak.

 

 

 

this then would benefit you so you get the best help.......

 

 

[thunderboult]

its not a need to govern anyone, its a need to make sure this site is a benefit to all who use it without any insults being handed out... and to make sure new comers to the sport get good soundadvice from people qualified to give it.

 

why do you seem to be any idea if change ?   what are you afraid of ?

 

 

 

oh happy days

 

not everthing's about winning, how would settling young birds have anything to do with winning , giving the right types of food for resting,breeding. building a loft, buying a clock. ps we fly as boulter bros this year ,was boulter bros+kelly and i have flown under my own name adrian boulter, also dillwyn lofts in one loft races we enter, i've got nothing to hide behind.

[joe61]

 

not everthing's about winning, how would settling young birds have anything to do with winning , giving the right types of food for resting,breeding. building a loft, buying a clock.

 

winning has nothing to do with it, but the person with best advice is the person best qualified,   look if you wanted some to teach you to drive who would you have, lewis hamilton or stevie wonder ?? :-/

 

 

[NW USA]

You seem persistant to effect this change? Why are you so insistant that less experienced fanciers have less valuable advice?

[Guest strapper]

 

 

 

sorry i think you are missing the point, let me ask you a question ,how many races have you won..?  

 

 

how many races that someone has won dont dictate how much experience they have...who would have the most experience going by that...someone who has won only 15 1st or someone who has won 10 1sts and 20 seconds.

 

i think the only way of recognition would be the years under the belt combined with years at the top of the sport.

 

[joe61]

You seem persistant to effect this change? Why are you so insistant that less experienced fanciers have less valuable advice?

 

 

fine have it your way... think you know it all, get on with it.

 

 

[joe61]

forget it lads i had enough , some of you just dont want to face it, if you want help anyone call me 07989746150..  besides that not much else anyone wants to do is there...

 

 

 

 

[thunderboult]

 

winning has nothing to do with it, but the person with best advice is the person best qualified,   look if you wanted some to teach you to drive who would you have, lewis hamilton or stevie wonder ?? :-/

 

 

your saying now winning as nothing to do with it but earlier in the thread you was saying you needed so many wins to give advice.

[thunderboult]

joe , do you know it all?

[joe61]

 

your saying now winning as nothing to do with it but earlier in the thread you was saying you needed so many wins to give advice.

 

 

 

you know what i said but obvoiusly dont understand, i dont reckon you won anything but thats me... like i said forget it.

 

 

[Peckedhen]

........and those who don't race? .....those with fancy and show pigeons? :-/

[joe61]

they could be rated in much the same way.. they are as valuable as the rest. but forget it, i just wanted to know peoples views and i got a good picture of that and was even called a facist which has been reported and i expect this to be dealt with, thats what me trying to help gets... so maybe i just insult everyone with everyone else....

 

 

 

 

 

pigeon fanciers a dying breed... dinosaurs in the thought process is it suprising..

[greenlands]

I have been among pigeons for near sixty years,won at all race points be it 50 mile or 500 mile but i still learn a few odds and ends off some of the younger/newer fanciers,just have a little common sense and sort the wheat from the chaff.Lindsay

[Guest racer]

personly i think its a load of crap when i last raced we have two clubs marking at the same head quarters in the same fed and 98% of the time our clubs first ten or so birds beat the other club so for instance if i was tenth i would of won there club in theory so on how many races won does not account for exsperiance as in the club of ours 1 person takes vertualy everything in my exsperiance you wont beat money and thats the truth

[Guest Paulo]

lets say if you won 3 races = rated 1

won 6=2

10=3

14=4

20=5

25=6

etc 40 race wins =10

 

experience rating is in years

1=1

2=2

3=3

4=4

5= excess of 5 years which will eqiuvilate to 1-2 races wins.

 

 

birdage does not matter nor which club or whos in it, its kept soley balck and white, how mant races you won thundrboult ?  

 

 

 

oh happy days

 

What about fed and amal wins there. I'd say a fed win is much better than an club win and an amal win is much better than the fed

[Guest karl adams]

joe 61 may i ask  in the years you have had pigeons how many races you have won and how many years you were the best flyer in the clubs you were in

                                          thanks karl adams

[Guest spin cycle]

really we want people posting...the more the merrier. viewers should then review the posts and make up their own minds on any given topic. joe's idea is a good concept but i think only a handful of people would end up with the confidence to post. also it needs to be simple but its a complex equation ( self defeating ). if i've got it right i'd be 2/4 (wins/years)

[joe61]

really we want people posting...the more the merrier. viewers should then review the posts and make up their own minds on any given topic. joe's idea is a good concept but i think only a handful of people would end up with the confidence to post. also it needs to be simple but its a complex equation ( self defeating ). if i've got it right i'd be 2/4 (wins/years)

 

a honest post. i never said my idea was set in stone but its just gives a idea of something which may help.. forget it mate i just to fed up with idiot talking rubbish on here...  pathetic most on here are...

 

 

[phillips]

lets say if you won 3 races = rated 1

won 6=2

10=3

14=4

20=5

25=6

etc 40 race wins =10

 

experience rating is in years

1=1

2=2

3=3

4=4

5= excess of 5 years which will eqiuvilate to 1-2 races wins.

 

 

birdage does not matter nor which club or whos in it, its kept soley balck and white, how mant races you won thundrboult ?  

 

 

 

oh happy days

 

joe i really cant see how this will work  personally i think this thread might cause some trouble

This site is here to help young fanciers and new flyers in the sport they feel safe by visiting the site and asking for advise by posting this thread dont you feel that fanciers will stop trying to help others incase they get pulled to peices ?

its really not about what you win its about how you win races and to share you methods with new comers

even the best flyers in the country are still learning so why do you have to win races to give advise?

ive not won a great deal of racers myself but hey that wont stop me from helping anyone

ive learnt an awfull lot since becoming a member on this site from newcomers and vetrans in the sport

cheers jason

[Guest]

 

a honest post. i never said my idea was set in stone but its just gives a idea of something which may help.. forget it mate i just to fed up with idiot talking rubbish on here...  pathetic most on here are...

 

 

Joe appreciate your honesty. However if we are mostly pathetic , best interest for you and others is for you to switch off the button. No need for you to suffer us morons. As Timbarra's partner he'll be able to tell you how much he misses not being able to come on this site.

Just leave that solves it for you... and us morons can continue to be moronic

PS Thunderbolt may not have raced long but he's a good fancier and anybody wanting good advice won't go far wrong talking to him, including myself!

[Guest karl adams]

joe im new to the sport  my self this will be my first year to race a full program and ppl on this site have helped me out a great deal some of them have been racing for years and some are new like me but i have took on board what both old and new have told me and if it works i stick with it if it dont i will try something else as i have found out what works for  one dont work for all

[joe61]

 

Joe appreciate your honesty. However if we are mostly pathetic , best interest for you and others is for you to switch off the button. No need for you to suffer us morons. As Timbarra's partner he'll be able to tell you how much he misses not being able to come on this site.

Just leave that solves it for you... and us morons can continue to be moronic

PS Thunderbolt may not have raced long but he's a good fancier and anybody wanting good advice won't go far wrong talking to him, including myself!

 

 

[Guest racer]

joe im new to the sport  my self this will be my first year to race a full program and ppl on this site have helped me out a great deal some of them have been racing for years and some are new like me but i have took on board what both old and new have told me and if it works i stick with it if it dont i will try something else as i have found out what works for  one dont work for all

 

 

         totally agree with you karl

[joe61]

 

Joe appreciate your honesty. However if we are mostly pathetic , best interest for you and others is for you to switch off the button. No need for you to suffer us morons. As Timbarra's partner he'll be able to tell you how much he misses not being able to come on this site.

Just leave that solves it for you... and us morons can continue to be moronic

PS Thunderbolt may not have raced long but he's a good fancier and anybody wanting good advice won't go far wrong talking to him, including myself!

 

 

[Guest Paulo]

I've been 2 years in the sport and have flown 2 young bird seasons and 1 old bird season and won:-

 

Club Level

 

4 x 1sts

 

3 x 3rd's

 

2 x 4ths's

 

Fed Level

 

1 x 1st

 

1 x 3rd

 

1 x 5th

 

1 x 8th

 

Amal Level

 

1 x fastest Bird same as topping it

 

1 x 26th out of the YB Nat

 

 

How I'm scored then? Surely if you have been in the sport for years but don't have as many wins your value you should drop wheras if I have been in for a shorter time but have higher wins than my score should be adjusted higher for what I have achieved with less time.

 

Just being cheeky Joe lol its a good idea in theory but difficult to enforce in practice plus lets me honest you could be like I am flying against decent flyers every week making it hard to clean up.

 

Look at say Skinninggrove Fed for example in the UNC. B&K Simpson are fed winners and top men and ace flyers but they haven't got a high number of points difference like there is in some feds between top man and second cause they are up againt top level flyers.

 

Lets say there was someone equal to that on here and another man was ranked higher than him who flew in a fed down south where he dominated cause the rest of them were rubbish he could in theory be rated lower in your points system where in practice he's not.

 

Plus lets be honest noone winner or not knows everything about pigeons and pigeon racing and we can all learn from each other.

 

Plus there is no right or wrong way a lot of the time in pigeon racing its what works for you.