UNIKON USERS

[PATTY BHOY]

hi all can anybody let me know if there is blank spots on the Unikon pads

what I mean by that is the centre of the pad a blank spot

or do you need a divider in the middle of the pad so as the bird can

only walk on the perforated area

regards.

[Blue Tooner]

Hi Patty Bhoy, my birds drop through a sputnik and then walk over the pad, I have no dividers, just a gap the width of the entire pad with bobs to slow them down, I.ve never missed a bird from a race yet although when the come in from exercise and are all jumping into the sputnik it does miss one or two.

cheers

[Guest tom123]

i have four pads and have never had a problem with any of them over two years

my mate did however find a blind spot down the middle of the grids on his but that proved to be a faulty pad and it was exchange within 24hrs of noticing it

[Ulsterlofts]

We have used the Unikon all last season and we have 2 pads side by side in our traps with no dividers and there was never a pigeon missed , its usally rumour mongers that try and tell people their is blank spots on the Unikon pads, as i was told before i bought Unikon by the Bricon agents at demos but it was lies as i have now proved all season myself.

[Guest]

Hi Patty Bhoy, my birds drop through a sputnik and then walk over the pad, I have no dividers, just a gap the width of the entire pad with bobs to slow them down, I.ve never missed a bird from a race yet although when the come in from exercise and are all jumping into the sputnik it does miss one or two.

cheers

 

had the same problem with them climbing over each other and missing 1 or 2

sorted that by shortening the bobs at the back of the pads to 4"

 

[sapper756]

All areas of your pad should read the ring, my pads are enclosed in a wooden frame, and still read the rings no problem

[Guest IB]

Wondered if people are talking about different things here?

 

A double pad is two seperate sensors seperated by 'dead area'. Plastic guides are provided to keep the bird over each sensor. I've made a plastic mesh tunnel which fits over each sensor between these guides, forcing my bird to walk over the sensors.

 

Pat,the 'hatched area' is the sensor, all areas of it are 'live', and will pick up the chip ring going over it; the smooth 'areas' between sensors and either side of them, are dead. There's no guarantee the bird's arrival will record if it flies over, or walks on 'dead areas'.

[Guest youngzimmy]

IB cobblers

[PIGEON_MAN]

Wondered if people are talking about different things here?

 

A double pad is two seperate sensors seperated by 'dead area'. Plastic guides are provided to keep the bird over each sensor. I've made a plastic mesh tunnel which fits over each sensor between these guides, forcing my bird to walk over the sensors.

 

Pat,the 'hatched area' is the sensor, all areas of it are 'live', and will pick up the chip ring going over it; the smooth 'areas' between sensors and either side of them, are dead. There's no guarantee the bird's arrival will record if it flies over, or walks on 'dead areas'.

 

Sorry Ian but according to Ray Knight there are no dead areas on the Unikon pads,if you get a ets ring and run it all over the pad you will find that it will register on every part of the pad,I believe the idea of having tunnels for your birds to walk down are now not neccessary and would certainly slow them down,the part that the birds walk over needs to be as open as possible.

[THE FIFER]

there are no dead areas on the pad, even the flat bits will time in a bird, birds standing on the flat area would be close enough to the ribbed area anyway to clock,

[walterbmasson]

 

 

IB THEY CERTAINLEY DONT REGESTER IN THE MIDDLE OF CENSOR PAD IVE SEEN IT MORE THAN ONCE WITH UNIKON

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

IB THEY CERTAINLEY DONT REGESTER IN THE MIDDLE OF CENSOR PAD IVE SEEN IT MORE THAN ONCE WITH UNIKON

 

I have also known this to happen with Unlkon BUT there is supposed to be no dead areas on the pad,its like a lot of things that are not supposed to happen but they do.

[Guest IB]

Like I said, reckon we are talking about different things. First my terminology was misleading, I talked about ‘pad’ ‘sensor’ and ‘and ‘Dead area’, and although I put dead in inverted commas, people apparently still picked me up wrong.

 

I got my system for 2007 OBs. I'd a good read through the instructions before doing anything else; two booklets: Wiring & installation instructions – uses pictograms rather than text, and a ‘ A Guide for the Flyer at the Loft’.  Near the back, ‘Questions & answers about Dual Ring sensors’,

 

How many detections areas in 1 dual ring sensor? = 2.

 

Are the pigeons recorded on any part of the dual ring sensor, or only on the chequered area? =  the pigeons are recorded on any part of the dual ring sensor, but the centre of each chequered detection area is the strongest part.

 

At what distance can the Unikon detect and record a ring? = with a ring above the centre of each chequered detection area the recording distance is 10cm. At other parts of the dual ring sensor the recording distance is less.

 

Must the pigeons pass through portals that are mounted above the dual ring sensors, in order to be sure that all pigeons are recorded?

 

No … but … An ideal set up would be to ensure the birds walked over the chequered detection areas on the dual ring sensor.

 

Now relate this information to the Wiring & installation instructions booklet page 12: The first pictogram with ring dead centre of chequered detection area = happy smiling face; second one with ring off chequered detection area = frowning face.

 

Page 13; middle pictograms, portal and guides, bird landing on chequered detection area = happy smiling face;  bird flying over it = frowning face.

 

So for me, taken together, this means the bird must walk over the chequered area to guarantee its time is recorded.