Distance winners guaranteed

[Guest numpty01]

yes all great men all in my club along with now retired chapple stubbs don jones peter thomas mr mrs t  gardner mr consistant sammy gardner  m burton old ray williams to only name some hoyusehold names d powell flew north for number of years with rogait labour club and east to west nat with myself and south nat  i still have des family here only weaker now but still think of times we sat waiting and to see birds home on day sansabastion and other points all these flyers still hold the old blood strains we went to ah bennets church stretton and remmber him with young birds saying out 100 if i get 3 good ones i will be happy

[hotrod]

thats no bad derick for a 'hypothetical' question , over a hundred posts.

[Guest bigda]

distance birds of yest-er, years flew lerwick with none  other than  hard bread, toasted bread, potato skins,  cabbage, and cabbage water  no fancy dan stuff  for them,  horse beans  butter beans,  acorns, and they turned up,   even the next day  :Xbirds then would  beat  the  modern :X distance birds, as the   the old timers didn't suffer  :-/fools  and   they  ate the numpties  ;D ;D

[hotrod]

distance birds of yest-er, years flew lerwick with none  other than  hard bread, toasted bread, potato skins,  cabbage, and cabbage water  no fancy dan stuff  for them,  horse beans  butter beans,  acorns, and they turned up,   even the next day  :Xbirds then would  beat  the  modern :X distance birds, as the   the old timers didn't suffer  :-/fools  and   they  ate the numpties  ;D ;D

and your callin me a coffin dodger and you can remember back this far?

 

 

[just ask me]

my own thoughts on the subject is if i could obtain a pair like this i would race there young in mind to win distance races as i dont think they would be as successful at sprint racing in a real hot federation as i do belive in horses for courses and from seeing some posts here about saying distance is king well i don't belive in that as its everyone to there own each type of race or pigeon has there own attributes which makes them succeed just because its not your cup of tea does not mean its second rate racing and about homing ability i think the good ones all have it weather that be sprint or distance one of the best distance flyers i know he accedes at races over 450 mile told me every few year he will bring in a sprint bird into the stock loft as he thinks there homing ability must be as good if not better as his thoughts on it well if u take a real hot sprint racing federation well if a bird leaves his line of flight nearlly at all its race over so they have to keep a real good line to win races so there homing ability must be good

 

[Guest bigda]

and your callin me a coffin dodger and you can remember back this far?

 

 

no, just common knowledge as  its  there   for all to see and read,   and I see no improvement in distance flying  since. and its the distance fancier that  has  shrunk  in  stature in pigeon racing, but cant see it  :-/

[Guest]

distance birds of yest-er, years flew lerwick with none  other than  hard bread, toasted bread, potato skins,  cabbage, and cabbage water  no fancy dan stuff  for them,  horse beans  butter beans,  acorns, and they turned up,   even the next day  :Xbirds then would  beat  the  modern :X distance birds, as the   the old timers didn't suffer  :-/fools  and   they  ate the numpties  ;D ;D

 

Don't quite agree with that, I think the old strains (which many were of Belgian origin!!)were hard day pigeons, the very reason that they dissapeared is that they could not compete with the modern faster continental birds look at Molveds st vincent pigeon and the speed it acheived to beat 37000+ birds(?). It would not have done it at 700 yds / minute which was often the winning velocity from Lerwick. And now that everyone flies south the real hard day birds are being bred out, look at Tarbes this year in the NFC, fast day birds! The old north roaders wouldn't live with them.

By the way wish I had a loftfull of those north roaders.

[Guest bigda]

the old strains  where  English, Scottish, and welsh and Irish  it was we who gave the  french the belgium's the dutch  the birds   as they had eaten all there's,  during the war  but  do not want to tell you that,  there was hardly a bird to be got durining the first war never mind the second when soldiers where  eating nothing more than buck wheat, my  great grandfather in Ireland

used to go about Ireland  buying hare, rabbits, starlings, crows , rats  and mice wich was sent to the soldiers at the front in naffy tins   and  cooked hedgehog blackbirds you name it  they traded it  during the war  and he  use to kill a pig  and salt it all for a shilling :-/

[Guest]

Most of the old strains came over before the war

[Guest]

The question is does anyone know of a modern day golden pair that bred/breeds 500/700 mile winners year in year out?By modern I mean the past 30/40 years.

[jimmy_bulger]

think brian denny might have one.judging by his perfomances at the distance

[Delboy]

If you were an out and out sprint racer and you were offered a pair of pigeons that bred an National Diploma winner ( at the distance ) guaranteed  in every nest, would you want them ? I think I know the answer but to settle an argument please put up your views.

 

This is the question, alot of folk are going way off the topic

[Guest]

Yes

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

My own thoughts are that the top men (professionals) at the sprint racing up to 200 miles in the UK would accept them because if there is something that is guaranteed like the breeding of these two young birds then they would not refuse them.

 

!!!!! But if you think that by offering these professional sprint men these young birds that they will change there goals to include the distance races then you are very much mistaken, these birds will go to waste at these fanciers lofts who have only one love and that is sprint racing, to much hard work goes into these fanciers lofts for them to deviate away from sprint racing at where there heart lies.

[Delboy]

Disagree with you Gareth, the best sprint man in Scotland, G.MacAloney , was a very good distance flier at one time. He would rip your arm off for the GOLDEN PAIR

[hotrod]

yes yes yes .

[Guest TIMBARRA LOFTS]

lets agree to disagree and accept we are all different.. hyperthetically that is  ;D