Guest Grasshopper Lofts Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 whats peoples thoughts on vents on the front at the bottom on lofts, i read somewhere its not good as this alows damp air to be driven in at ground level.
andrecrock Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Myne is on the bottom,no problems with damp.
PATTY BHOY Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Ventilation When the air inside the loft is not as fresh as the outside air, then there is a ventilation problem. The traditional Australian loft is open at the front and gets good race results in areas with low humidity (non-coastal and inland regions, South Australia etc.). Such a loft requires little other ventilation other than vents on the back and side walls of the loft. Place the vents under the perches rather than at the top, so that the air does not pass over the birds resting in the perches. The flow of air over the birds created by incorrectly placed vents is referred to as a draft and causes illness by preventing the birds from resting. The creation of proper ventilation in enclosed lofts is more difficult to achieve and in dry areas it is often better to avoid enclosed lofts. However, in high humidity and very cold areas the loft must be enclosed at night to maintain the form of the fit race team, although it is opened up as much as possible during the day. The best lofts can be opened up during the day and closed up at night, when it is raining or during cold humid weather. More ventilation is required in closed lofts than open lofts. Ceiling or wall ventilation fans are often used to improve the circulation inside the loft. Vents placed on the back and side walls near the floor are open during the day and on warm nights and closed when it is wet or cold. Double-check the quality of the air inside an enclosed loft by asking an asthmatic friend to stand inside and pass an opinion as to the freshness of the air.
OLDYELLOW Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 whats peoples thoughts on vents on the front at the bottom on lofts, i read somewhere its not good as this alows damp air to be driven in at ground level. leave enough gap for your deep litter , but thats aload of crap no damp on my floors thats where air comes in at floor level as the air passes over it drys the droppings up and removes stale air at the top at roof level , thats the whole principle of of ventilation
wilkins Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 my loft has a foot vent every 6 foot at floor level front and back my floor is always dry
Wiley Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Secrets Of Champions VI, would be a good buy at the blackpool show, will teach you alot on ventilation. Good pigeons will not win in a poor loft, and in my view a good loft is a well ventilated one, with no droughts or dampness
mark Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 leave enough gap for your deep litter , but thats aload of crap no damp on my floors thats where air comes in at floor level as the air passes over it drys the droppings up and removes stale air at the top at roof level , thats the whole principle of of ventilation in at the bottom out at the top air that is.
Shortcut Lofts Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 I have the white plastic type fitted at the bottom along the front every 6 feet, at the back the loft has a 6" overlap of a roof which is open to allow the stale air out. The vents at the front have a protective cover over them to stop rain etc, but are raised of the vents so the air can still get in.
Blue Tooner Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Our racing loft is 20' x 8' with a tiled roof, the ridge tiles are screwed on so that the stale air can escape from here. At the bottom front of the loft we have two 18" x 12" louvres. Being a smoker I always watch where the smoke goes when I light up in the loft and it always goes straight up and out at the top, so this tells me that the air is exchanging okay. The only problem with the open ridge is that the loft gets a lot of snow inside in the winter, which drives me crazy, but after watching Secrets of Champions IV, I'm not going to worry too much about it, as Paul Haelterman says - "The more snow you have in your loft in winter, the more first prizes you will have in the summer", if its good enough for him, its good enough for me. ;D ;D
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Our racing loft is 20' x 8' with a tiled roof, the ridge tiles are screwed on so that the stale air can escape from here. At the bottom front of the loft we have two 18" x 12" louvres. Being a smoker I always watch where the smoke goes when I light up in the loft and it always goes straight up and out at the top, so this tells me that the air is exchanging okay. The only problem with the open ridge is that the loft gets a lot of snow inside in the winter, which drives me crazy, but after watching Secrets of Champions IV, I'm not going to worry too much about it, as Paul Haelterman says - "The more snow you have in your loft in winter, the more first prizes you will have in the summer", if its good enough for him, its good enough for me. ;D ;D you better stop or you'll start coffin, ??) ;D ;D ;D
Blue Tooner Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Have you got the cold Clocky, your voice sounds a bit hearse
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Have you got the cold Clocky, your voice sounds a bit hearse ??) ??) ??) i'm no ready for a lift :o
Blue Tooner Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 ??) ??) ??) i'm no ready for a lift :o ;D ;D ;D
walterbmasson Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 stuart i agree you cant get enough air flowing iam open every way also a 12 inch fan going 24[ 7 taking it out as fast as its coming in ;D
Guest IB Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 The late Frank Harper, vet, advocated high-level vents, because he reckoned as cold air falls, conventional bottom vents will draw cold air into the loft. Most of my vents are under the eaves along the back wall, and along the roof ridge, so most of air exchange is happening above me and the birds, within the roof space. There is a small aviary off the floor on the front wall at one end, and another larger aviary on the side at the opposite end. End result is a variable-direction pull of air through the loft. When I riddle my deep litter, dust gets sucked out through both aviaries.
me Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 whats peoples thoughts on vents on the front at the bottom on lofts, i read somewhere its not good as this alows damp air to be driven in at ground level. The most important thing is the number of birds in the loft not the ventilation. Having said that we also have to be practical. We all know hot air rises so it is not as stupid as you think to have vents low in the back(north) and plenty of "glass" or light in the front(south), with "vents" high at the back and the middle of the sides. The really important thing is to have an ability to alter the ventilation to suit the number of birds.(or vice versa for that matter)
pigeonscout Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 A 2 ins gap full length front and back eaves with inside ceiling to control the air flow. The grass in the fields early morning are soaking wet but just 3 feet up on the hedge the leaves are dry.
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