Why are my pigeons

[pigeonpete]

you all sound well in front of me!! mine only do 10 mins on a sat and same sunday!! its dark when i go to work and dark wehn i come home in the week!! so role on clocks going forward next weekend, then i will get em going!!

[Guest TIMBARRA LOFTS]

If your birds do not have either of these diseases you are doing well. It would be quite normal for the best managed birds to have a degree of these diseases as a result of the stress of breeding. It would also be quite normal for YBs to have picked these things up from the parents. That is why most fanciers treat for these diseases at the time of weaning. I am careful to make sure that my birds are clear before I pair up. But when I check after I part them off after they have reared they usually have a biuld up of both canker and cocci. Most people rear their YBs by leaving a pot of food in front of the parents during the rearing period. And often it is a mixture of food types. The old birds usually pick and choose what they want to eat and feed the young. Often there is food thrown all over the place while they pick what they want. A bit like kids in a sweet shop. The result is usually that the birds put on wieght and are far from fit at the end of it all. Nothing wrong, just normal behaviour. So that is what often happens and if it does then we have to job of putting it right. I am sure that these things should be checked out as a matter of routine. And if all that fails, the search for answers goes on. In my attempt to help I may have stated the obvious and could have been well wide of the reasons why the guy was worried. I have no idea how experienced he is so I attempted to give him a very basic check list to start of with. Short of going to his loft and seeing for myself, I could not think of what else to do. So rather than assuming I thought it worth check even obvious things.  

 

 

My birds do not get these illnesses, i do not treat for canker or cocci and have not done for 16 years, i had one cock with canker and he is over it.

 

if you gotta treat your birds every few weeks or whatever i think they are to weak.

 

 

[jimmy white]

If your birds do not have either of these diseases you are doing well. It would be quite normal for the best managed birds to have a degree of these diseases as a result of the stress of breeding. It would also be quite normal for YBs to have picked these things up from the parents. That is why most fanciers treat for these diseases at the time of weaning. I am careful to make sure that my birds are clear before I pair up. But when I check after I part them off after they have reared they usually have a biuld up of both canker and cocci. Most people rear their YBs by leaving a pot of food in front of the parents during the rearing period. And often it is a mixture of food types. The old birds usually pick and choose what they want to eat and feed the young. Often there is food thrown all over the place while they pick what they want. A bit like kids in a sweet shop. The result is usually that the birds put on wieght and are far from fit at the end of it all. Nothing wrong, just normal behaviour. So that is what often happens and if it does then we have to job of putting it right. I am sure that these things should be checked out as a matter of routine. And if all that fails, the search for answers goes on. In my attempt to help I may have stated the obvious and could have been well wide of the reasons why the guy was worried. I have no idea how experienced he is so I attempted to give him a very basic check list to start of with. Short of going to his loft and seeing for myself, I could not think of what else to do. So rather than assuming I thought it worth check even obvious things.  

 

im not a great one for bashing medications in them,, but,, as the post above says , stress,  such as racing,   rearing, and moulting   is a big factor in raising the levels of cocci, canker etc,, as is an overcrowded loft is  also,, a clean, dry ,well ventilated,  un-stressfull loft,  will have less bother than the opposite, but due to the certain amount of stress racing fanciers are forced to put them through , these levels are all the better for being checked either in dropping tests [as mentioned b4] or as a one off treatment b4 racing begins ,[ thats if you cant manage to get their droppings tested ] but in general would agree with the above post

[weecunny]

a found its better to give small feed afore u let them out eg some barley or wheat works for me

[weecunny]

jimmy u ken as well as the rest of us they test are a con send some samples to 2 diffrent plc and al bet u get 2 difrent results been said on here afore

[ALF]

 

im not a great one for bashing medications in them,, but,, as the post above says , stress,  such as racing,   rearing, and moulting   is a big factor in raising the levels of cocci, canker etc,, as is an overcrowded loft is  also,, a clean, dry ,well ventilated,  un-stressfull loft,  will have less bother than the opposite, but due to the certain amount of stress racing fanciers are forced to put them through , these levels are all the better for being checked either in dropping tests [as mentioned b4] or as a one off treatment b4 racing begins ,[ thats if you cant manage to get their droppings tested ] but in general would agree with the above post

 

Jimmy i'm just glad you didnae quote timbertops the clown mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

 

Jimmy i'm just glad you didnae quote timbertops the clown mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

;D ;D ;D ;D wood eye  ;D ;D ;D

 

i think , wee cunny , these dropping tests  , if done in the proper places are ok,,well worth the £16 =£18 ,, i think maybe that the problem lies with the fancier,, droppings for testing,, [nearly said tasting there ;D ;D],,, are better taken at different times of the day , and from all different places in the loft ,,