Grit/Minerals whilst treating

[Guest snookbri]

Am treating at the moment with Paraty-Stop,and have been told to withhold Grit/Minerals whilst doing so, but it seems a long time (12-14 days) for birds to go without grit/minerals and was wondering would it be ok to provide same just for 1-2 days (staggered) or to stop treatment for 1 day,give grit,then resume treatment.

Your thoughts would be welcomed

[pjc]

It won't do the birds any harm witholding griz/minerals for the period of treatment. The main thing is they get plenty of minerals and probiotics to rebuild imunity after treatment.

[adam owen]

grits are a big no no whilst treating for anything weather it be canker cocci or parastop

[mark proctor]

Am treating at the moment with Paraty-Stop,and have been told to withhold Grit/Minerals whilst doing so, but it seems a long time (12-14 days) for birds to go without grit/minerals and was wondering would it be ok to provide same just for 1-2 days (staggered) or to stop treatment for 1 day,give grit,then resume treatment.

Your thoughts would be welcomed

 

its nice to see you having a go bri m8,,i wish you all the best this year m8,,ile nip round in a couple of weeks bri for a look m8 if you dont mind...speak soon,,,mark... ;)

[friendsloft]

Ive always taken grit/minerals away when treating

Ken

[Guest snookbri]

It won't do the birds any harm witholding griz/minerals for the period of treatment. The main thing is they get plenty of minerals and probiotics to rebuild imunity after treatment.

 

Thanks Phil and Adam, just thought it was a long time to go without Grit considering its such a vital ingredient to a Pigeon's well being and i have Probiotics ready for when treatment ends.

Thanks again

[Guest snookbri]

 

its nice to see you having a go bri m8,,i wish you all the best this year m8,,ile nip round in a couple of weeks bri for a look m8 if you dont mind...speak soon,,,mark... ;)

 

Cheers Mark, Missed racing like mad this last year and hopefully giving it a go this year.

Yes you're welcome any time mate.

[mark proctor]

 

Cheers Mark, Missed racing like mad this last year and hopefully giving it a go this year.

Yes you're welcome any time mate.

 

cheers bri,,look forward to a loft visit then m8... ;) ;) ;)

[Guest snookbri]

Am treating at the moment with Paraty-Stop,and have been told to withhold Grit/Minerals whilst doing so, but it seems a long time (12-14 days) for birds to go without grit/minerals and was wondering would it be ok to provide same just for 1-2 days (staggered) or to stop treatment for 1 day,give grit,then resume treatment.

Your thoughts would be welcomed

 

Forgot to add also giving Gemthepax x2 strength on corn every other day.

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

Thanks Phil and Adam, just thought it was a long time to go without Grit considering its such a vital ingredient to a Pigeon's well being and i have Probiotics ready for when treatment ends.

Thanks again

 

Allthough I give mine grit occasionally I ,ve never thought of it to be that important,be interested on others thoughts.

[mark proctor]

 

Forgot to add also giving Gemthepax x2 strength on corn every other day.

 

hi bri,,,dont worry to much about grit m8,,i no some top fanciers who very realy use it,,,never in the winter and very little in racing season m8...and these lads are the tops....i never used it much last year with my young birds but still won 4 x 1sts 4 x 2nds and so on....and if you do now and then dont leave it in front of them in then little pots as it goes damp m8,,,,if you must just sprinkle a little on the loft floor after feed m8....jmo

[retired]

 

Cheers Mark, Missed racing like mad this last year and hopefully giving it a go this year.

Yes you're welcome any time mate.

 

Good to hear Brian - We can share training costs with the young un's lol  ;D

[adam owen]

i think grits are a must in pigeons to help there crop out as the crop is what grinds the grains i dnt think its needed every day or like mark said in front of them all the time but couple times a week shud be fine dnt use it as much in racing as it makes the birds heavy not what u want when racing  my own oppinion gud luck

[whiteknight]

We never leave grit in our loft,we might give them a hand full when fed but thats it.When there on meds they should also be left in do not let them out as they will peck around the garden or on roof,and allways give them three days on vit's

[Guest snookbri]

 

Good to hear Brian - We can share training costs with the young un's lol  ;D

 

Yes no problem mate, o/bs (limited) as well if you like, so long as better than the last chuck. :(

[retired]

 

Yes no problem mate, o/bs (limited) as well if you like, so long as better than the last chuck. :(

 

Keep an eye on the 'K Factor' this time will never train or race on a bad K day again!!

[Guest IB]

Certain classes of antibiotic have an affinity for calcium, they bind with it making the medication ineffective. The product leaflet should give all the information you need. Personally of the two, parastop or grit, I'd be more afraid of the effects of giving the antibiotic than withholding the grit..

[Guest snookbri]

 

Keep an eye on the 'K Factor' this time will never train or race on a bad K day again!!

 

Now thats another thread/topic  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[holmsidelofts]

Certain classes of antibiotic have an affinity for calcium, they bind with it making the medication ineffective. The product leaflet should give all the information you need. Personally of the two, parastop or grit, I'd be more afraid of the effects of giving the antibiotic than withholding the grit..

 

Yeah doxycycline is one of them that you shouldnt give grit with. but cocci, canker, worming treatments are all fine. Birds should get fresh grit and minerals every day. they are extremely important in the birds life, especially this time of the year when you are pairing up. They should also get a good calcium supplement for at least 1 month before pairing up. as the stress on egg production and laying on the hen is huge. failure to do so can cause hens to use up there own body supply of calcium in there bones , this cause hens legs to fail and hens that cant fly or get back up to there box. its also has an effect on egg binding.

 

Dont underestimate the importance of grit and minerals.

 

 

[Guest lenwadebob]

 

Cheers Mark, Missed racing like mad this last year and hopefully giving it a go this year.

Yes you're welcome any time mate.

 

I wish you all the best Brian. Hope your Health and Racing are both 'on the up' in the future.

[Guest mick bowler]

Certain classes of antibiotic have an affinity for calcium, they bind with it making the medication ineffective. The product leaflet should give all the information you need. Personally of the two, parastop or grit, I'd be more afraid of the effects of giving the antibiotic than withholding the grit..

 

Yes the Tetracyclines will be ineffective if you feed any high calcium supps, as it binds itself to the drug. Also worth noting that if you are in a high calcium in drinking water area it can have the same effect.

 

 

[Guest snookbri]

 

I wish you all the best Brian. Hope your Health and Racing are both 'on the up' in the future.

 

Thanks Bob, all the best to yourself and your family and although i've thanked you via pm, would like to thank you again for your assistance in covering Norfolk/Suffolk for me in my role as Pigeon Courier and to say it's been a pleasure working with you.

Hope to speak soon.

Brian

[Guest lenwadebob]

It was a pleasure Brian, and I enjoyed doing it, as it allowed me the chance to meet fellow fanciers in and around East Anglia. Keep in touch.

Brian

[dwh]

Certain classes of antibiotic have an affinity for calcium, they bind with it making the medication ineffective. The product leaflet should give all the information you need. Personally of the two, parastop or grit, I'd be more afraid of the effects of giving the antibiotic than withholding the grit..

 

we all use mixed grit just wondering has redstone any calcium content or is calicum un the oyster shell grit only?

[greenlands]

To be sure about grit while treating birds just don't give them any then you're sure,another thing to be carefull with is the use of Chicken Layers pellets these have a fairly high calcium content.

Lindsay