aidenspop Posted February 3, 2010 Report Posted February 3, 2010 Hi recieved my rings today, dont like them , is it possible to file of the ETS lugs and still be legal ????
blackdog Posted February 3, 2010 Report Posted February 3, 2010 type in search rpra 2010 rings, hope this helps
les Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 some thing else forced upon us ,whats next ,its a trial thing acording to the rpra ,then why not just get a club to try them ,only any good to the ets users the rings will add seconds to some one like me ,because i put a address ring on one leg ,and have my race rubber put over the ring on the other leg ,so if i use these rings i will have trouble geting the rubber of over the stupid lugs ,plus cause the bird some more stress by me strugling ,,i wonder if the threat of court action because they are being unfair to us clock users will have any affect ,like the threat from the disabled did to get ets in ,im not against ets ,just the RPRA .lol.
Guest youngzimmy Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 i think you are being a bit over the top about a ring and anyway the advantages of having an ets system far outways not having one you got to go with the flow man
Guest lenwadebob Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 These new rings would be far better supplied with a plastic insert in them that can be removed and replaced with the ETS chip if required. It would save them catching on things, and also stop the slot from becoming filled with sh!te. Plus the added advantage with these plastic inserts is that they could be made in many different colours so that fanciers could buy them for easy identification purposes, and save the need for using a separate plastic identity ring.
greenlands Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 These new rings would be far better supplied with a plastic insert in them that can be removed and replaced with the ETS chip if required. It would save them catching on things, and also stop the slot from becoming filled with sh!te. Plus the added advantage is these plastic inserts is that they could be made in many different colours so that fanciers could buy them for easy identification purposes, and save the need for using a separate plastic identity ring. Good idea Bob,IMO best thing for the new rings is the bin,how many birds have you had with broken legs,these rings are ideal for doing the job.Read somewhere that the chips for them are £1:30 each at the moment and likely to go up,any one else heard anything Lindsay.
pjc Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 marketing opportunity there for you Bob, patent and produce coloured inserts!
les Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 i think you are being a bit over the top about a ring and anyway the advantages of having an ets system far outways not having one you got to go with the flow manyes and then the rpra would have cost me another £600 because of the 2 new t3s i bought ,
mark croker Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 1.10 they are, i dont mind the ring, i think people have gone over the top with it all, but i dont like the chips, they dont seem secure, the belg ones last year imo were better than these ones, i dont see the point with it all anyway, if the chip was built in to a normal ring it would be good, but then it would cost more and people would moan then, no one can win :-/
mark croker Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 yes and then the rpra would have cost me another £600 because of the 2 new t3s i bought , Why did you get 2 T3s when you could have got a bricon for 250 and have 8 race in the one clock :-/
pjc Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 1.10 they are, i dont mind the ring, i think people have gone over the top with it all, but i dont like the chips, they dont seem secure, the belg ones last year imo were better than these ones, i dont see the point with it all anyway, if the chip was built in to a normal ring it would be good, but then it would cost more and people would moan then, no one can win :-/ At the moment members have the option, they pay there 26p per ring and if they choose to use ETS they pay £1.10 for the chip etc. Do you think rings should cost £1.35+ each where members wouldn't get the choice? With the amount of losses it will make racing even more expensive.
mark croker Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 No mate. not at all, i am not using the new ring as i dont like it, i am sticking with the leg ring, thats what i am saying, i just dont see the point, i woould rather spread it on the two legs than have it all on the one and a spare leg, that i will just put a address ring on anyway, i am going to just use the leg ring and get the stickers
les Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 Why did you get 2 T3s when you could have got a bricon for 250 and have 8 race in the one clock :-/ i got them new the same time they decided to allow the ets ,so i had to make use of them ,you just keep forking out because of the rpra and ets ,i will just keep on paying for rubbers ,ATB les.ps i have orderd whu rings now without any stupid bits added to them ,
owen101 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 you should be allowed a opportunity to pick with the lugs or without the lugs as that will cater for everyone IMO
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 Good idea Bob,IMO best thing for the new rings is the bin,how many birds have you had with broken legs,these rings are ideal for doing the job.Read somewhere that the chips for them are £1:30 each at the moment and likely to go up,any one else heard anything Lindsay. yes lindsay we are being subsidised at the moment and have been for the last 3 years but as i understand 2010 is the last year so you can expect at least a 50 percent increase next year on ets rings , think this was done so we all buy one then once we have the system the only way the ets people can make money is buy selling rings hence why the will never be a universal ring
Guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 in this weeks B.H.W. there are 11 letters to the editor , 5 of which raise objection to the new ring ,its design , lettering , and the fact it was brought in without consultation to the fancy. a number of scribes also mention it in their columns . andy.
Guest tom123 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 cant understand wot all the fuss is about the lugs dont make any difference once again its a new thing over here in uk and members dont like change or progress
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 cant understand wot all the fuss is about the lugs dont make any difference once again its a new thing over here in uk and members dont like change or progress the fuss is the members never got to vote on them again , most fanciers still dont have ets ! when the birds are rubbered for a national whats the bettering some kind person will stick the rubber above the ring , i also asked the rpra where i could get a clip to put in the ring for when i dont have a ets chip in there , reply was there isint one , so whos going to sit there and clean all the groves out with a tooth pick so i can get my ets chips in before racing ? guess that will be me then !
Guest tom123 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 granted fanciers not using ets may have a few grunts when it comes down to double rubbering birds for national events ,but in this day and age you must have att least 70% or more on ets ,and it accomandates there system of timing in aswell has manual (rubbers) clocking i see comments regarding these rings smashing eggs next year as yearlings has an excuse but i have a loft full of belg and dutch ybs carrying, these rings has the dutch had them in 2009 and to date out of 16 pairs no problems ,once again you cant knock something you havent tried give them the time and you will see theres not difference from traditional rings
les Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 cant understand wot all the fuss is about the lugs dont make any difference once again its a new thing over here in uk and members dont like change or progress tom if i had used them they would add seconds to me timing in ,because it would have made it harder to get the rubber over the top
demolition man Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 These new rings would be far better supplied with a plastic insert in them that can be removed and replaced with the ETS chip if required. It would save them catching on things, and also stop the slot from becoming filled with sh!te. Plus the added advantage with these plastic inserts is that they could be made in many different colours so that fanciers could buy them for easy identification purposes, and save the need for using a separate plastic identity ring. Good idea Bob
the whisperer Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 dont no why everybody is crying about these lugs the rings are ok
catchthepigeon Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 granted fanciers not using ets may have a few grunts when it comes down to double rubbering birds for national events ,but in this day and age you must have att least 70% or more on ets ,and it accomandates there system of timing in aswell has manual (rubbers) clocking i see comments regarding these rings smashing eggs next year as yearlings has an excuse but i have a loft full of belg and dutch ybs carrying, these rings has the dutch had them in 2009 and to date out of 16 pairs no problems ,once again you cant knock something you havent tried give them the time and you will see theres not difference from traditional rings No difference from traditional rings?Apart from 2 stupid lugs on them thats the difference.Why do you think the traditional rings where made perfectly round.Its to stop them catching on things.The new rings will smash eggs injure ybs in the nest and many birds will get broken legs from them.If the RPRA is not going to cater for traditional clocking methods theres no point being in it.Not everyone has the money to set up ets
Guest cowboy Posted February 4, 2010 Report Posted February 4, 2010 RPRA have issued them this time, i believe after David Bills statement for a 1 year trial,thats in a reply to a disgruntled fancier, there are a few letters in this weeks BHW regarding the new rings , ive not yet heard one posotive comment about them . yes a well said that fancier was we told about the new rings , david bills answer to the fancier was not good enough and i think as members we should have been ask , as the W.H.U. ring have not got the silly wings that will catch in god knows what and even might have to be cut off as bird grows
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