breeding problem

[jimbhoy29]

ive got a pair of gifted stock pigeons that have breed every year for the owner with ybs winning every year but since ive had the pair they sit eggs for about 10 days  then the eggs are smashed under neath hur  ive shiffted eggs from hur but i would like them to rear a pair of ybs.

 

                      any ideas why there always smashing

[walterbmasson]

ive got a pair of gifted stock pigeons that have breed every year for the owner with ybs winning every year but since ive had the pair they sit eggs for about 10 days  then the eggs are smashed under neath hur  ive shiffted eggs from hur but i would like them to rear a pair of ybs.

 

                      any ideas why there always smashing

if they are breeding winners you dont want them to bring them up float the dam things  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[jimbhoy29]

if they are breeding winners you dont want them to bring them up float the dam things  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

bred winners for the owner  i havent had a chance yet they keep smashing  ive just moved shiffted hur eggs that she laid a few days a go

[Guest bakes]

cock coming into box mate and the cocks are fighting could be i have had 10 eggs smashed this way seen it with my own eye another cock lands on box and hen or cock goes running out and has a scrap when they run they stand on the eggs had have an cracked egg hatch out put some clear nail varnish on it other egg was cracked wide open if it dont break the membrane of the egg you be ok little dent can put some clear nail varnish on it but if its a gud un big crack its a bin job

 

all the best

[jimbhoy29]

cock coming into box mate and the cocks are fighting could be i have had 10 eggs smashed this way seen it with my own eye another cock lands on box and hen or cock goes running out and has a scrap when they run they stand on the eggs had have an cracked egg hatch out put some clear nail varnish on it other egg was cracked wide open if it dont break the membrane of the egg you be ok little dent can put some clear nail varnish on it but if its a gud un big crack its a bin job

 

all the best

 

its only this pair every other pair is on young birds/eggs   3 sets of eggs smashed

[walterbmasson]

cock coming into box mate and the cocks are fighting could be i have had 10 eggs smashed this way seen it with my own eye another cock lands on box and hen or cock goes running out and has a scrap when they run they stand on the eggs had have an cracked egg hatch out put some clear nail varnish on it other egg was cracked wide open if it dont break the membrane of the egg you be ok little dent can put some clear nail varnish on it but if its a gud un big crack its a bin job  bakes any hairline crack leaves a weakness in the egg

 

all the best

 

 

[grizzal]

as mention float eggs,i know you said you have now,but would have

floated the first 2 nests and then let them sit[jmo]

[jimbhoy29]

as mention float eggs,i know you said you have now,but would have

floated the first 2 nests and then let them sit[jmo]

 

my plan was to float the eggs but the day i got round to it they were smashed...   but u learn by ure mistakes  every day is a school day ;)

[JAS]

As soon as she lays put a dummie egg in could be the cock or hen sitting to tight. We had this last year 2 nests broken told to try this and worked straight away. Told its normally old stock and it was a old cock that we had the problems with

[Tony C]

If there’s no signs of fighting going on perhaps one of the pair are sitting the eggs to heavy, slip a dummy egg in the nest so they’re effectively sitting three eggs. The solid egg will hopefully bear  the weight of the heavy sitter

[Guest Owen]

If these birds are as good as you say, it would be worth making up a pen just for them. This way you will not have the other cocks fighting them and smashing the eggs. If I had a cock that good I would use him as a Bull and get 20 or so youngsters from him including a pair or three from his usual hen. That way you may be able to identify more hens that match with him.

[Tony C]

As soon as she lays put a dummie egg in could be the cock or hen sitting to tight. We had this last year 2 nests broken told to try this and worked straight away. Told its normally old stock and it was a old cock that we had the problems with

 

Snap!  ;D

[jimbhoy29]

As soon as she lays put a dummie egg in could be the cock or hen sitting to tight. We had this last year 2 nests broken told to try this and worked straight away. Told its normally old stock and it was a old cock that we had the problems with

 

the pair are 03 birds  but ill try that when she lays again

[Guest Owen]

Just a thought, are you giving these birds fresh grit and minerals every day? And are you giving them liquid calcium in the water. Maybe the eggs are soft shelled. If this is the case, you will never be able to rear anything any good. That is why the Bull system is so good, you are not relying on just one hen.

[jimbhoy29]

If these birds are as good as you say, it would be worth making up a pen just for them. This way you will not have the other cocks fighting them and smashing the eggs. If I had a cock that good I would use him as a Bull and get 20 or so youngsters from him including a pair or three from his usual hen. That way you may be able to identify more hens that match with him.

 

once i get everything all sorted out bird and loft wise i was gong to get a few different hens for him to go with so i could build a team but this winter with work and stuff its been a nightmare trying to get things done

[jimbhoy29]

Just a thought, are you giving these birds fresh grit and minerals every day? And are you giving them liquid calcium in the water. Maybe the eggs are soft shelled. If this is the case, you will never be able to rear anything any good. That is why the Bull system is so good, you are not relying on just one hen.

 

yes theres plenty of everything ive got 12 pair of stock birds and the other 11 pair are on ybs or just hatching .    just that pair

[gulkie]

when u shift there eggs slip them a pair from another nest if u just

want to allow them to rear a couple of young.

[walterbmasson]

 

 

jimbhoy did you put dummies under them after eggs smashed she would need 10 days before you try them again if not more good luck

[steve d]

I would be content on moving the eggs to other birds m8 if the are producing the goods, however what i would do if u are insistent that you want then to rear a youngsters is as follows.

1. Pair them up the same time as another pair.

2. once they lay remove eggs under the foster pair and replace with pot eggs ( this ensures no breakages)

3. once the eggs under foster pair chip remove one pot egg and slip them a youngster, the 2 pairs will then single rear a youngster each.

 

This is what I would do if you want them to rear, good luck   ;)

[jimbhoy29]

 

jimbhoy did you put dummies under them after eggs smashed she would need 10 days before you try them again if not more good luck

 

shes on dummies just now..  i was going to seperate hur at the wkend for a week or so then pair hur back up   just trying diferent things

[Guest vander mungo]

had this problem myself but after a years close watching noticed that both confined overweight birds being bored wanted to sit all day    found cock and hen one on top of the other, with double the wieght they were braking there own eggs.i gave them dummies ,then gave them 1 of hatchlings back but left 1 dummie to keep wieght of hatchling once rung removed dummie this worked for me.